Which mortal sins would be a surprise to most Catholics?


#1

Knowing that knowledge is a requirement, lets assume all Catholics were taught moral theology.


#2

not teaching your children the faith yourself is a mortal sin?


#3

if i was to speculate, i would say most catholics know what a mortal sin is…

then they go into denile, or deamazon, :smiley: and choose what they want, and count on a super merciful God… :slight_smile:

Now that being said… the good news is, he is a super merciful God… but I think it is a dangerous way to live… and the best we can do for our brothers and sisters in faith is to love, pray, and set good examples… leave the judgement and so called (sin acknowledgement) to God… :thumbsup:

give someone reason to seek forgiveness with your attitude of charity and forgiveness… you aren’t telling them something they don’t already know… really!.. :cool:


#4

[quote=jeffreedy789]not teaching your children the faith yourself is a mortal sin?
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If it is, it’s certainly surprising to me


#5

wow - a few good choices there.


#6

Mass attendance. Take a body count on a any given Sunday besides Easter and compare it to Easter Sunday, Christmas, etc. Not to mention the other Holy days of obligation.


#7

[quote=jeffreedy789]not teaching your children the faith yourself is a mortal sin?
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It would be debatable.:yup: Here is an example.

Your child goes through Catholic school or CCD and is not taught the true faith. They leave the house not knowing the faith and fall away from the Church. While growing up your only involvement was taking them to mass and praying before meals.

Gross negligence would have to be assumed.:frowning: It is Church teaching that parents are to be the primary faith formatter.

“Solely relying on others” would be the major factor to determine if it is mortal or venial.

Either way, I would definitely want to confess this before I had to answer to God about how I raised His kids.

:blessyou:


#8

I would say, one many never consider is- watching TV or a movie and not making sure your child or yourself does not look at any immoral shows and especially advertisements that can be semi pornographic or worse. Our Lord warned us it would be better to have a millstone tied around our necks and be thrown into the sea, than to cause one of these little ones to sin.Yours in Jesus, Mary & Joseph,

John
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#9

Not having the number of children one is called to have???

Wait a minute??? How do you know that? So if you are “supposed” to have 3 children and you only have 2, then what? What if your spouse dies and you don’t have any children…does that mean you weren’t called to have children??

Someone please explain this to me…


#10

(looks like we’ve surprised some catholics… ) :slight_smile:


#11

None of them really surprised me. The one about missing mass while on vacation was one I haven’t thought about too much. I’ve only seriously come back to the church this past March, so I haven’t had to consider that one too much. Last June I missed mass while tagging along on a business trip with my husband to Quebec City, and our flight back was at noon on Sunday. I felt compelled to confess this before the next Sunday.
I can see how not having all the children you’re called to have is a mortal sin. The teachers of NFP say you should use it to space children, not use it to permanently avoid pregnancy. It’s something I’ve prayed about alot. I came to the conclusion that if my husband and I could mentally and financially handle another child, then we should have them. We will (in June) have our fourth, and I think of it as a privilege to bring someone into the world who will have the chance to know and love God, and someday be in heaven.


#12

[quote=sarcophagus]Not having the number of children one is called to have???

Wait a minute??? How do you know that? So if you are “supposed” to have 3 children and you only have 2, then what? What if your spouse dies and you don’t have any children…does that mean you weren’t called to have children??

Someone please explain this to me…
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Generally, this means deciding that you know better than God how many children you should have. If you go through your marriage prayerfully considering whether God is calling you to have another child, that’s ideal. A lot of people decide that X number of children is all they want and never want to discuss or consider it again. They would not be “listening” to determine if they are called to have another child.

I hope I explained that clearly.


#13

[quote=johnq]It would be debatable.:yup: Here is an example.

Your child goes through Catholic school or CCD and is not taught the true faith. They leave the house not knowing the faith and fall away from the Church. While growing up your only involvement was taking them to mass and praying before meals.

Gross negligence would have to be assumed.:frowning: It is Church teaching that parents are to be the primary faith formatter.

“Solely relying on others” would be the major factor to determine if it is mortal or venial.

Either way, I would definitely want to confess this before I had to answer to God about how I raised His kids.

:blessyou:
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Those are good examples. When I read this, I was thinking more about what the kids learn before they become school age. If a child has never learned anything about his/her faith prior to entering CCE or Catholic school, then the parents may not be fulfilling their duty to raise their children up in the faith.


#14

[quote=John Russell Jr]I would say, one many never consider is- watching TV or a movie and not making sure your child or yourself does not look at any immoral shows and especially advertisements that can be semi pornographic or worse. Our Lord warned us it would be better to have a millstone tied around our necks and be thrown into the sea, than to cause one of these little ones to sin.Yours in Jesus, Mary & Joseph,

John
Saints are just sinners who keep trying.http://forums.catholic.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
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Other than EWTN (which I don’t get) that pretty much eliminates TV. I got tired of the regular fare of immoral teaching and haven’t watched TV for years. One hour a week if that much, usually the weather channel.

Sometimes I hear people on radio talk about TV shows that have come and gone and I realize I’ve never seen one episode.

You know, I don’t feel deprived at all. But I sympathize with those who have small children or teenagers. It must be difficult to combat the tube.


#15

Just a couple of thoughts on the one about failure to raise the children in the faith.

Perhaps what we tend to delegate to others is that at their Baptism we and the godparents as back-up, actually promise God to do just that, raise them in the faith. I think it was Fr Corapi I heard talk about Baptism one time, and what is taking place is that original sin is being removed from the child, yet for the fullness of the Baptism to be complete, the child himself/herself will some day, when they attain reason, will have to believe in Christ for themselves, and that assent of faith will complete their Baptism. He said that “opere operato” ie. that a sacrament effects what it signifies, has the two components, God’s operation of Grace, and the person’s receiving that Grace in belief.

That is why it is critical to raise the child to believe in Jesus Christ because until they do their Baptism is not yet complete. Confirmation is supposed to work in the same way, as the Holy Spirit is given by the Bishop, the descendent of the Apostle, in a sense following what Jesus said, that unless a man is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter the Kingdom. Presumeably, those receiving Confirmation believe in Jesus Christ and desire to live as a Christian, in the Spirit.

Thus you can say that the child’s very salvation depends on us. Heavy responsibility.


#16

I voted for the Missed Holy Day of Obligation -

Most Catholics I know can’t even tell me which ones they are and most of the time I hear, “What’s a holy day of obligation?”


#17

Not teaching your chidren the faith, solely relying on others

Having been a catechist fo over 30 years you just cannot imagine how many parents do not teach their children anything about the Faith… and do rely on CCD to do the job! Then they don’t send them to Mass because they feel that CCD is enough…poor babies to much for them on Sundays…might interfere with their sports, etc…:rolleyes:


#18

Dear friend

Beautiful and absolutely correct. If a person is not taught, you never learn the fullness of Truth. Mostly faith is nourished in the home and I would say it is a serious sin to deprive children of Jesus, the Holy Spirit and God the Father. Teach your children, say the Rosary with them , pray together and talk about Jesus’ life in a way they will understand, tell bedtime stories about Jesus. Take them to Mass from the very beginning because once they are Baptised, those little ones are our brothers and sisters in Christ and have a right to everything in the Church in the fullness of their time, those things that they can have (if too young for the Eucharist), they should not be deprived of.

Their salvation does depend on it, as we all depend on each other to help each other to Heaven, this is what we are here for, to help our friends, spouse, children, strangers and enemies to Heaven.

God Bless you and much love and peace to you

Teresa


#19

[quote=sarcophagus]Not having the number of children one is called to have???
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We must follow the teachings of the Church.

Here are a few examples of how God views children.
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*]“Be fertile and multiply.” This is the God’s first command in Genesis :hmmm:
*]No where in scripture are children described negactively :ehh:
*]The last plague was the death of the first born child, not giving each women twins :hmmm:
*]It was considered a curse not to have children :banghead:
*]Children were blessings, see Abraham and Moses :slight_smile:
[/list]CCC 2366 and 1652 offer some insight.

In my opinion, the two most abused reasons for not having children are age and money.

Take courage and ask God, if it be His will, to give you the desire to have more children.

Sorry so choppy.

:blessyou:


#20

If he or she is “surprised” then it must not be a mortal sin, since such an action requires intent with full knowledge.


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