[quote="kylemccloughan, post:16, topic:248567"]
Hey, just exactly what are the 5 points?? Just curious.
5 points are the Dutch Reformed response to Jacob Arminius and his followers in 1610.
There response ended up with the 5 points T = Total Depravity, U = Unconditional Election, L = Limited Atonement (sometimes called definate Redemtion), I = Irrisistible Grace, and P = Perseverance of the Saints.
I think in most Baptist or Evangelical Churches Calvinism really refers to just Predestination but the Dutch Reformed or Scottish Prebyterians also have historical links with John Clavin the person and therefore also use it to refer to other doctrines which he held such as on the Sacraments and church government.
Some Calvinists in an attempt to "water down" their more horrible doctrines (such as Limited Atonement) loose "petals" on their tulip and can call themselves 4 or 3 pointers, so your neighbours may well be 3 point Calvinists.
hope this adds some perspective