Who know what's going on in hell except the damned?


#1

God is omniscience so should know that, though he never bothered to see it.

the good thief probably knows since he followed Jesus to hell first before going to heaven.

How about others? for example Mary, saints, angels and those still in purgatory


#2

[quote=abcdefg]God is omniscience so should know that, though he never bothered to see it.

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What do you mean by that?


#3

I know what’s going on in hell… permanent seperation from God. Period.

What could be worse than that?


#4

The Reality of Hell: Stories of Persons who Visited Hell and Apparitions of the Damned

2/20/2005 6:50:00 PM - Our lady of the Rosary Library

The Reality of Hell Stories of Persons who Visited Hell and Apparitions of the Damned

One of the great dangers of this century, and thus one of the great triumphs of Satan, has been the growing disbelief in the existence of Hell. For many, Hell has become a fable, a myth, an outdated holdover from “the Old Testament God of fire, brimstone and judgment.” Urged on by false doctrines and a want to believe that there can be no such thing as eternal punishment for serious wrongs “when Jesus is a God of love and kindness,” many have thrown Hell out the window - along with concern for sin. After all, if there is no Hell, then why need there be concern for sin? Unfortunately, they forget that “I the Lord do not change” (Malachi 3:6). Hell has not suddenly evaporated because we would prefer it so. How subtle Satan is in these times. He increasingly tricks people into his web by disguising its very existence. He wants you to let your guard down. Please do not be deceived. Hell, eternal punishment for serious sins, exists. Scripture, the Church and reports of modern-day visionaries all confirm that Hell is a reality - never-ending reality for those souls who must reside there with Satan and all the other damned forever, because by their own free will and choice they rejected God while on earth and excluded themselves from communion with Him.

more…


#5

I don’t need to know what’s going on there to know I want no part of it.


#6

[quote=abcdefg]the good thief probably knows since he followed Jesus to hell first before going to heaven.
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That’s not quite right. Neither Jesus nor the good thief went to what we know as hell–the abode of the damned. We don’t know anything about what happened to the good thief in the afterlife except that he did go to heaven. But we do know that Jesus “descended into hell,” which is not the hell of the damned, but the abode of the dead, aka the limbo of the Fathers, to carry his message of salvation to those good persons who had come before, such as Moses and the prophets, and who could not enter heaven until the Savior had come.


#7
  1. When does a “wrong” become “serious” enough for it to be punished? Do YOU know?
  2. “by their own free will and choice they rejected God” - what are you living in? the early 19th century? It has been shown over and over and over again that free will and choice is naught but an ideology, possibly, probably even an atheist communist ideology. How many times do you need to be told?
  3. If the Lord does not change and is in fact a God of Love as well, then how does a hell of torture and pain fit into his loving Plan? Or are all the unfortunate souls who have been blithely and lazily ignored by rich, fat, Western Christians who cannot even get ouf of bed to preach the Gospel going to Hell because they are too poor??? Have you ever been to Western China to talk about the need for Jesus? And if not, what is your excuse? Oh, you have job commitments? Oh dear…
    Spare me your visions, morphine induced hallucinationss and silly stories about hell. You are naive.
    I believe in a Just God - one who does not discriminate in favour of people with NDE’s and needle assisted conversion “experiences”. Or 2nd mortgages or the American Way or McDonald’s. A God who knows what life’s really all about. And life, for 4 billion people on this planet, on this day, pretty much SUX.

[quote=buffalo]The Reality of Hell: Stories of Persons who Visited Hell and Apparitions of the Damned

2/20/2005 6:50:00 PM - Our lady of the Rosary Library

The Reality of Hell Stories of Persons who Visited Hell and Apparitions of the Damned

One of the great dangers of this century, and thus one of the great triumphs of Satan, has been the growing disbelief in the existence of Hell. For many, Hell has become a fable, a myth, an outdated holdover from “the Old Testament God of fire, brimstone and judgment.” Urged on by false doctrines and a want to believe that there can be no such thing as eternal punishment for serious wrongs “when Jesus is a God of love and kindness,” many have thrown Hell out the window - along with concern for sin. After all, if there is no Hell, then why need there be concern for sin? Unfortunately, they forget that “I the Lord do not change” (Malachi 3:6). Hell has not suddenly evaporated because we would prefer it so. How subtle Satan is in these times. He increasingly tricks people into his web by disguising its very existence. He wants you to let your guard down. Please do not be deceived. Hell, eternal punishment for serious sins, exists. Scripture, the Church and reports of modern-day visionaries all confirm that Hell is a reality - never-ending reality for those souls who must reside there with Satan and all the other damned forever, because while on earth and excluded themselves from communion with Him.

more…
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#8

[quote=duprie37]1. When does a “wrong” become “serious” enough for it to be punished? Do YOU know?
2. “by their own free will and choice they rejected God” - what are you living in? the early 19th century? It has been shown over and over and over again that free will and choice is naught but an ideology, possibly, probably even an atheist communist ideology. How many times do you need to be told?
3. If the Lord does not change and is in fact a God of Love as well, then how does a hell of torture and pain fit into his loving Plan? Or are all the unfortunate souls who have been blithely and lazily ignored by rich, fat, Western Christians who cannot even get ouf of bed to preach the Gospel going to Hell because they are too poor??? Have you ever been to Western China to talk about the need for Jesus? And if not, what is your excuse? Oh, you have job commitments? Oh dear…
Spare me your visions, morphine induced hallucinationss and silly stories about hell. You are naive.
I believe in a Just God - one who does not discriminate in favour of people with NDE’s and needle assisted conversion “experiences”. Or 2nd mortgages or the American Way or McDonald’s. A God who knows what life’s really all about. And life, for 4 billion people on this planet, on this day, pretty much SUX.
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If you believe in a Just God you have to believe he will judge us perfectly.

  1. How has this been shown over and over again? By who?

God doesn’t discrimate - you do and thus by a person’s choice they cannot be admitted into heaven if they choose against Him. This is pretty basic stuff.


#9

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