Who said it: Bernie Sanders or the Pope?


#1

Who said it: Bernie Sanders or the Pope?

cnn.com/interactive/2016/04/us/bernie-sanders-pope-who-said-it


#2

This is freaky! I got half of them wrong! They do think and speak alike on many big issues in the world today.

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#3

Ha ha, 5/10 for me! I really should be reading more Pope Francis media despite my self-avowed intention to keep media browsing to a bare minimum… :smiley:


#4

Who Said this? The Pope or Bernie Sanders?

“Abortion is not the lesser of two evils. It is a crime. It is to throw someone out in order to save another. That’s what the Mafia does. It is a crime, an absolute evil,”

A marriage (made up of man and woman) is not the same as the union of two people of the same sex. To distinguish is not to discriminate but to respect differences… At a time when we place emphasis on the richness of pluralism and social and cultural diversity, it is a contradiction to minimise fundamental human differences. A father is not the same as a mother. We cannot teach future generations that preparing yourself for planning a family based on the stable relationship between a man and a woman is the same as living with a person of the same sex.” f


#5

Got me a C + lol


#6

Hmmm… pretty hard to figure that one out. Still, I can’t imagine Bernie saying anything like that.


#7

I got 8/10.


#8

I got 1 wrong and 9 correct! But really, there’s very little difference in what they say.


#9

It is not freaky. Do not worry. It is just passages.
Christianity preceeded and ultimately it is good that persons of good will may have common ground somewhere.

The fact that our worldviews may not be the same, does not mean that the persons are not good persons nor that they are seeking for answers along the same path necessarily.

      And ultimately, as we read these passages, we also read them through the lens of life experience. And the Pope is a son of the Church and it is the Gospel and the Social teaching of the Church and yes, as we will find points of convergence , we will find those of deep divergence with ideologies. 
      
      After a couple of days ill and in bed, it doesn t feel like there is anything new about this under the sun and it can be sorted out with patience. Or hopeful about that!

Peace, Daddy Girl.


#10

I do think they are both good people–at least they seem to be. I’m just amazed that they sound as though they are quoting each other.
But it doesn’t worry me. I’m just very…amused!

cheers, GracieW

dg
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#11

I got 9/10 correct. There was one that I felt so sure was Francis and it turned out to be Bernie!


#12

And now…they’ve met each other!!!

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Bernie Sanders Meets With Pope Francis**

nytimes.com/2016/04/17/us/politics/bernie-sanders-pope-francis-vatican.html?_r=0

cbsnews.com/news/2016-elections-bernie-sanders-briefly-meets-pope-francis/

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#13

SO the difference I see between the 2 is,

  1. one is a leader of a big country, and the other the leader of a sovereign vatican which declares itself its own nation in order to lead the church.
  2. Both believe in and encourage helping the poor
  3. The church can influence people to be generous and giving to help those in need, but does not set it upon a whole large country to do it against their will, it is all donation.
  4. a country (USA) has to hold people accountable so that the poor that are given to aren’t given so much that their lives end up easier than those who are working their lives away and actually earning the money. Bernie’s ways could very possibly do this. In Denmark, some (or maybe more) people who have been on welfare 30 years have more money coming in fromn welfare than those who are working. This is a form of slavery, imho.
    (note) Denmark is not socialist, according to the prime minister
    (note) I was prompted to post this because there are articles saying the Pope is calling Sanders the most Christian candidate.

#14

They shook hands in the lobby of the Vatican Hotel


#15

Why do they sound alike at all? The Pope is a traditional monarch and Sanders is a socialist revolutionary.


#16

How is he a revolutionary? He’s running as a candidate for president in one of the mainstream US parties in a perfectly normal election and just wants to implement some mild reforms. He isn’t advocating revolution. He isn’t actually even a socialist, but he certainly isn’t a revolutionary.


#17

Bernie Sanders talks of having a political revolution. He also truly does hold socialist views.


#18

You talk a lot about Bernie’s socialist views, yet you cannot name one of his socialist economic proposals. How do his views differ from Hillary’s?


#19

How does one answer this question without denigrating the pope?


#20

The Pope is a Christian monarch ruling over a Christian theocracy. Socialism and the traditionalism of the Vatican generally do not mix.


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