Who said this??


#1

Which Dem lawmaker uttered this in 1971:

“Wanted or unwanted, I believe that human life, even at its earliest stages, has certain rights which must be recognized—the right to be born, the right to love, the right to grow old. . . . When history looks back to this era it should recognize this generation as one which cared about human beings enough to halt the practice of war, to provide a decent living for every family, and to fulfill its responsibility to its children from the very moment of conception.”


#2

I looked it up and could not believe who it was. None other than our own beloved Catholic senator, who left a young girl to drown in the back seat of his car, from Massachusetts----ta-dah------Teddy boy Kennedy.


#3

[quote=Lance]I looked it up and could not believe who it was. None other than our own beloved Catholic senator, who left a young girl to drown in the back seat of his car, from Massachusetts----ta-dah------Teddy boy Kennedy.
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What?:eek: :eek: :eek: Maybe he should be checked for possession?I can’t believe it.


#4

YES, indeed. Ol’ Teddy!! I was hoping for a few wrong guesses, but Lance is too smart to not use Google. :slight_smile:

This is an excerpt from a documented history of the Democrat Party and abortion:

Major Trouble from Massachusetts

During the Carter years, Congress battled fiercely over abortion, approving funding restrictions that ultimately would be upheld by the courts, but failing to pass a pro-life constitutional amendment. Two Massachusetts Democrats made life very difficult for pro-life activists at the time. Senator Edward Kennedy, head of a family still idolized by Democrats, had made pro-life statements in the early 1970s, but later became a major (and shrill) defender of abortion. His enormous influence within the Democratic Party and the Senate helped sell the “pro-choice” position to liberals, especially Catholic liberals.

Also helping to make it easier for Catholics to toe the pro-abortion line was Representative Robert Drinan, a Jesuit priest who wore his Roman collar while voting for abortion funding. Drinan’s activism started well before the Carter presidency and had tremendous impact on other Democratic politicians. His papers at Boston College reveal how Drinan would tell pro-life constituents that he was morally opposed to abortion while he told people on the other side that he was using his influence to block pro-life initiatives—as indeed he was. In June, 1974, Drinan wrote to an abortion foe saying he hoped “everything that is feasible can be done to protect the sanctity and inviolability of unborn life.” But in July he assured an abortion supporter that “I have voted the correct way on all of the foolish proposals” made by two pro-life House members. Drinan once told a fellow congressman that he “found those in the so-called right to life movement to be very doctrinaire, adamant and unyielding people who have never had any experience with political issues before.” And in a letter to a Harvard University professor, he wrote: “I met recently with the so-called ‘Right-to-Lifers’ in a part of my congressional district. I commended the articles which you have written to them. At least one of these individuals will in all probability be able to read them.”21

On another occasion, an intern in Drinan’s office reported that a woman, thinking “Congress could learn from her experience,” had stopped by to describe her devastating experience with abortion 20 years earlier. Drinan’s handwritten note to the intern was hardly pastoral: “I hope that you heard her confession,” he joked. Regarding the intern’s comment that the woman “wanted you to know her personal history,” the priest responded, “Any more interesting details?” But when Drinan later wrote to the woman, he said he regretted he “was unable to meet with you personally,” that he shared her “deep concern with this matter,” and that he commended her “for your activities on behalf of the inviolability of all human life.”

CONTINUED…next post>>


#5

“The Single Issue that Our Politicians Have Feared and Scorned”

Badly bruised by Senator Kennedy in the 1980 Democratic presidential primaries, Carter was unable to fully control the 1980 convention. While he won the nomination again, he couldn’t stop—and apparently didn’t even try very hard to stop—the delegates from adopting a platform plank that supported public funding of abortion.

Meanwhile, abortion foes were flocking to the standard of Ronald Reagan, the former California governor and Republican presidential candidate. Ellen McCormack ran again—this time as an independent—and was overwhelmed by the Reagan tide.23 There were few pro-lifers at the Democratic convention, while abortion supporters were out in great strength. The National Organization for Women had its own whip system for floor votes, and leading feminists such as Eleanor Smeal, Betty Friedan and Bella Abzug were deeply involved in the platform fight.24

Abortion supporters were so bold as to have Dr. Kenneth Edelin of Boston—best known for his manslaughter conviction (later overturned) for an abortion he had done on a five or six-month-old unborn child—speak in favor of the abortion-funding plank. Edelin portrayed public funding as an urgent need of poor and minority women, appealing to the Democrats’ traditional concern “for the poor and the downtrodden in our society.” But he had nothing to say about the poor and minority children killed by abortion; nor did he suggest any nonviolent alternatives.25

Speaking out against the plank was Carol Wold, Democratic national committeewoman from Minnesota. “I am a Democrat,” she told the audience. “I am pro-life. Today my party is telling me that I cannot be both.” Wold passionately pointed out that even as she spoke, “ten children are dying from abortion. They are human and alive, tiny and unborn, just as you and I were. And those ten children are the single issue that our politicians have feared and scorned but our nation cannot avoid. For without the right to have one’s life protected, all other rights are meaningless and all other promises made by this party are cruel and hollow.”

Wold also reminded delegates that “in many states there are Democratic senators in deep trouble this year because of their pro-abortion record.”26 The election returns proved her right. Their pro-abortion records, plus Carter’s loss to Reagan, helped defeat a number of senior Democrats in the Senate.

Interesting, eh? As they say, read the whole thing.

humanlifereview.com/2003_summer/article_2003_summer_meehan.php


#6

Also, the Rev. Jesse Jackson had an even tougher opinion at that time, describing abortion “as too nice a word for something cold, like murder.”


#7

[quote=Lance]I looked it up and could not believe who it was. None other than our own beloved Catholic senator, who left a young girl to drown in the back seat of his car, from Massachusetts----ta-dah------Teddy boy Kennedy.
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you are a hurtful person… you know not of what you are speaking…
you don’t have a kind nature… i am ashamed of you…

you know what kind of a person you are…
… yeah, you know… i’m sure you know…

i just can’t keep from being overwhelmed at the unkindness that raises it’s nasty head in these forums… sticks and stones can break your bones, but words can break your heart… and now, i have become a problem…

forget my admonishment lance, i will just block you in my properties and that way “out of sight, out of mind” . I apologize for blowing up on you, and i wish you Peace:thumbsup:


#8

[quote=jlw]Which Dem lawmaker uttered this in 1971:

“Wanted or unwanted, I believe that human life, even at its earliest stages, has certain rights which must be recognized—the right to be born, the right to love, the right to grow old. . . . When history looks back to this era it should recognize this generation as one which cared about human beings enough to halt the practice of war, to provide a decent living for every family, and to fulfill its responsibility to its children from the very moment of conception.”
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Like a lot of politicians… they are personally against abortion… but they don’t feel it’s their business to control the will of those who don’t believe as they do… You may disagree with the Senator, and he may very well have to answer to the Man Upstairs, but so do us all.


#9

[quote=space ghost]you are a hurtful person… you know not of what you are speaking…
you don’t have a kind nature… i am ashamed of you…

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Space, are you hurt by his admonishment of Teddy’s actions?? Or the scarcasm that he used??

Do you have anything to say about the subject of the post??


#10

[quote=space ghost]Like a lot of politicians… they are personally against abortion… but they don’t feel it’s their business to control the will of those who don’t believe as they do… You may disagree with the Senator, and he may very well have to answer to the Man Upstairs, but so do us all.
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So abortion is about belief ??? Lord have mercy!!!


#11

[quote=space ghost]you are a hurtful person… you know not of what you are speaking…
you don’t have a kind nature… i am ashamed of you…

you know what kind of a person you are…
… yeah, you know… i’m sure you know…

i just can’t keep from being overwhelmed at the unkindness that raises it’s nasty head in these forums… sticks and stones can break your bones, but words can break your heart… and now, i have become a problem…

forget my admonishment lance, i will just block you in my properties and that way “out of sight, out of mind” . I apologize for blowing up on you, and i wish you Peace:thumbsup:
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What is it about Kennedy that is nice right now? Are you not disgusted that he is supportive of the murder of the unborn?Because people may get a tad bit emotional about this issue especially concerning a Catholic who fights for the unborn to be ripped apart.We should be praying for this man,but no one is oblidged to agree with murder just because he says he is Catholic.God Bless


#12

[quote=jlw]So abortion is about belief ??? Lord have mercy!!!
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isn’t your faith about belief?


#13

[quote=space ghost]Like a lot of politicians… they are personally against abortion… but they don’t feel it’s their business to control the will of those who don’t believe as they do… You may disagree with the Senator, and he may very well have to answer to the Man Upstairs, but so do us all.
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Take this another direction shall we? America personally disagrees with Hitler exterminating the Jews,but we don’t feel as though that is our business to control the will of those who believe as they do.You may disagree with America,and we may very well have to answer to the man upstairs,but so do us all.


#14

[quote=Lisa4Catholics]What is it about Kennedy that is nice right now? Are you not disgusted that he is supportive of the murder of the unborn?Because people may get a tad bit emotional about this issue especially concerning a Catholic who fights for the unborn to be ripped apart.We should be praying for this man,but no one is oblidged to agree with murder just because he says he is Catholic.God Bless
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i don’t know all the nice things about the Senator, I know he has donated thousands if not millions to special olympics, and other causes for those less fortunate that himself… I certainly don’t agree with his stand on lots of subjects… You and I agree, we should be praying for all members of congress and the president and the supreme court and any one or body that has influence to help those that can’t help themselves…

if you read my post, i am not asking anyone to agree, i just object to the juvenile trash of constantly trying to raise themselves up by dancing or standing on the failures of others…

they will know we are christians by our love!


#15

[quote=Lisa4Catholics]Take this another direction shall we? America personally disagrees with Hitler exterminating the Jews,but we don’t feel as though that is our business to control the will of those who believe as they do.You may disagree with America,and we may very well have to answer to the man upstairs,but so do us all.
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good segwey… should we not have forces in the sudan… millions genocided… opps… no oil or maybe their appearence is different than ours… what do you think…


#16

[quote=space ghost]isn’t your faith about belief?
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Faith most certainly is. It’s also about TRUTH.

But putting religion aside, you think that the act of abortion is not objectively wrong, regardless of what we do on Saturday, Sunday, or 5 times a day??


#17

[quote=jlw]Faith most certainly is. It’s also about TRUTH.

But putting religion aside, you think that the act of abortion is not objectively wrong, regardless of what we do on Saturday, Sunday, or 5 times a day??
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Agreed!:thumbsup:


#18

[quote=space ghost]good segwey… should we not have forces in the sudan… millions genocided… opps… no oil or maybe their appearence is different than ours… what do you think…
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We should have dealt with Sudan a long time ago,yes. What people are going through over there is wrong and yes they need help.If we are going to stand on moral principles we should do just that:) You can’t just do the just thing part of the time.God Bless


#19

[quote=space ghost]Agreed!:thumbsup:
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Huh?? you misread…I hope.

I said “do you believe that it is *not *objectively wrong…”


#20

[quote=jlw]Which Dem lawmaker uttered this in 1971:

“Wanted or unwanted, I believe that human life, even at its earliest stages, has certain rights which must be recognized—the right to be born, the right to love, the right to grow old. . . . When history looks back to this era it should recognize this generation as one which cared about human beings enough to halt the practice of war, to provide a decent living for every family, and to fulfill its responsibility to its children from the very moment of conception.”
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So what happened??!..


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