Who, What, When, Where, Why Your Religion?

What is your religion?

Why do you choose to practice a non-Catholic religion?

I dont see my self as following a religion unless you mean christianity is a religion. I consider my self a christian who is a follower of Jesus Christ. I see it more as a intimate relationship with my Lord Jesus Christ. I see christianity as a body of christians and not any set denomination. :thumbsup: God Bless.

Christianity is not a religion. It is a Person, Jesus Christ, who supplants religion in the hearts of His Elect.

My Christian denomination is Anglican, because of God’s grace and mercy.

By the way: Eastern Orthodoxy is a Catholic denomination. It’s just not a Roman Catholic denomination.

Someone here at Catholic Answers needs to conduct a class on how to create polls which don’t contain ‘loaded’ questions. No offense intended.

[quote=SPOKENWORD]I dont see my self as following a religion unless you mean christianity is a religion. I consider my self a christian who is a follower of Jesus Christ. I see it more as a intimate relationship with my Lord Jesus Christ. I see christianity as a body of christians and not any set denomination. :thumbsup: God Bless.
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Religion: a system of belief; an order of worship;

So, you’re non-denominational? Is there scripture or tradition that backs up your conviction to worship Christ outside of a structured denomination? Why do you prefer this style of Christianity?

Cubby
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[quote=flameburns623]Christianity is not a religion. It is a Person, Jesus Christ, who supplants religion in the hearts of His Elect.

My Christian denomination is Anglican, because of God’s grace and mercy.

By the way: Eastern Orthodoxy is a Catholic denomination. It’s just not a Roman Catholic denomination.

Someone here at Catholic Answers needs to conduct a class on how to create polls which don’t contain ‘loaded’ questions. No offense intended.
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How is the poll “loaded”? My understanding was that EO is in schism with the Roman Catholic church, and they choose to call themselves Orthodox instead of Catholic. You could say they’re catholic, but you can’t say they’re Catholic anymore than you can call Anglicans Catholic. - This is my understanding, but I am real new to this…

Cubby
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Orthodox are Catholics. And Anglicans are ‘catholic’ with a small ‘c’, at least in many cases. And the word ‘religion’ is employed in a neutral sense in only one passage of Scripture, in James. In all other cases it is referred to disparagingly and contrasted with the true worship of God.

[quote=Cubby]Religion: a system of belief; an order of worship;

So, you’re non-denominational? Is there scripture or tradition that backs up your conviction to worship Christ outside of a structured denomination? Why do you prefer this style of Christianity?

Cubby
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Hi Cubby, I prefer this style because by keeping your eyes on Jesus and the Holy Spirit as the Teacher how can I go wrong. All I have to do is what His Word has instucted. The bible is all that I believe is necessary to live a Christian life. Please understand that im not ignorant to the fact that He left us the Five Fold Ministies. God Bless.

[quote=flameburns623]Orthodox are Catholics. And Anglicans are ‘catholic’ with a small ‘c’, at least in many cases. And the word ‘religion’ is employed in a neutral sense in only one passage of Scripture, in James. In all other cases it is referred to disparagingly and contrasted with the true worship of God.
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I know an Orthodox priest who will not refer to himself as Catholic, only Orthodox. Anyway, where in the Bible can I find the “other cases” where relifion is referred to as a contrast to the true worship of God?

Cubby
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[quote=SPOKENWORD]Hi Cubby, I prefer this style because by keeping your eyes on Jesus and the Holy Spirit as the Teacher how can I go wrong. All I have to do is what His Word has instucted. The bible is all that I believe is necessary to live a Christian life. Please understand that im not ignorant to the fact that He left us the Five Fold Ministies. God Bless.
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Allrighty, you may not be ignorant of the Five Fold Ministries, but I sure am! Will you enlighten me?

Cubby
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PART 1 OF 2

This column by Ann Landers appeared in The Arizona Republic newspaper on Wednesday, November 20, 1996

Dear Readers: Do you have any idea when your religion was founded and by whom? If you are not interested in the subject, skip today’s column and go directly to the horoscope. I found the following fascinating:

If you are a member of the Jewish faith, your religion was founded by Abraham about 4,000 years ago.

If you are Hindu, your religion developed in India around l,500 B.C.

If you are a Buddhist, your religion split from Hinduism and was founded by Buddha, Prince Siddhartha Gautama of India, about 500 B.C.

If you are Roman Catholic, Jesus Christ began your religion in the year A.D. 30.

If you are Islamic, Mohammed started your religion in what is now Saudi Arabia around A.D. 600.

If you are Eastern Orthodox, your sect separated from Roman Catholicism around the year 1054.

If you are Lutheran, your religion was founded by Martin Luther, an ex-monk in the Catholic Church, in 1517.

If you belong to the Church of England (Anglican), your religion was founded by King Henry VIII in the year 1534 because the pope would not grant him a divorce with the right to remarry.

If you are a Presbyterian, your religion was founded when John Knox brought the teachings of John Calvin to Scotland in the Year 1560.

If you are Unitarian, your group developed in Europe in the 1500s.

If you are a Congregationalist, your religion branched off Puritanism in the early 1600s in England.

If you are a Baptist, you owe the tenets of your religion to John Smyth, who launched it in Amsterdam in 1607.

If you are a Methodist, your religion was founded by John and Charles Wesley in England in 1744.

If you are an Episcopalian, your religion came from England to the American colonies. It formed a separate religion founded by Samuel Seabury in 1789.

Continued

PART 2 OF 2

If you are a Mormon (Latter-day Saints), Joseph Smith started your church in Palmyra, N.Y. in 1830.

If you worship with the Salvation Army, your sect began with William Booth in London in 1865.

If you are a Christian Scientist, you look to 1879 as the year your religion was founded by Mary Baker Eddy.

If you are a Jehovah’s Witness, your religion was founded by Charles Taze Russell in Pennsylvania in the 1870s.

If you are Pentecostal, your religion was started in Little Rock, Arkansas in 1901.

If you are an agnostic, you profess an uncertainty or a skepticism about the existence of God.

If you are an atheist, you do not believe in the existence of God.

–End of Article–

Ann Landers (who is now deceased) got an A+ in history!

Which Church was founded by the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity, and which churches were man-made?

Peace, Jay

[quote=SPOKENWORD]Hi Cubby, I prefer this style because by keeping your eyes on Jesus and the Holy Spirit as the Teacher how can I go wrong. All I have to do is what His Word has instucted. The bible is all that I believe is necessary to live a Christian life.
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Since the Bible doesn’t make that claim, why do you believe it?

Christ didn’t leave us a book when He returned to heaven. He left us a Church (Mt 16:18-19). He expects his followers to belong to the Church that he founded for the salvation of the world; the Church is His representative on earth. The Church speaks for Chirst (Luke 10:16). The Church wrote the New Testament. Neither the NT nor the Bible existed as we know them until the Church was nearly 400 years old.

The Catholic Church did not come out of the Bible, as all Protestant churches do. The Bible came out of the Church.

A little knowledge of history does a person a world of good. Sola Scriptura is a fallacy.

Protestants blame the Holy Spirit for each of the thousands of conflicting and competent denominations by claiming that the Holy Spirit leads everyone to the “truth.” Well, if the Spirit didn’t lead the 7th Day Adventists or the Jehovah’s Witnesses or the Mormons or the Two-Seed-in-the-Spirit Predestinarian Baptists to the “truth,” what makes you think he’s leading you?

JMJ Jay

[quote=Cubby]Allrighty, you may not be ignorant of the Five Fold Ministries, but I sure am! Will you enlighten me?

Cubby
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Hi Cubby. I would not want to keep you in darkness. :smiley: The Five Fold Ministries are as outlined in the book of Ephesians 4 vs 11 1.Apostles.2.prophets.3.evangelists.4.pastors.5.teachers. in roles of service for the faithful to build up the body of Christ.I hope this helps. We are constantly learning fromthe word of God. :thumbsup: God Bless.

[quote=Katholikos]PART 1 OF 2

If you are a member of the Jewish faith, your religion was founded by Abraham about 4,000 years ago.

If you are Hindu, your religion developed in India around l,500 B.C.

If you are a Buddhist, your religion split from Hinduism and was founded by Buddha, Prince Siddhartha Gautama of India, about 500 B.C.

If you are Roman Catholic, Jesus Christ began your religion in the year A.D. 30.

If you are Islamic, Mohammed started your religion in what is now Saudi Arabia around A.D. 600.

If you are Eastern Orthodox, your sect separated from Roman Catholicism around the year 1054.

If you are Lutheran, your religion was founded by Martin Luther, an ex-monk in the Catholic Church, in 1517.

If you belong to the Church of England (Anglican), your religion was founded by King Henry VIII in the year 1534 because the pope would not grant him a divorce with the right to remarry.

If you are a Presbyterian, your religion was founded when John Knox brought the teachings of John Calvin to Scotland in the Year 1560.

If you are Unitarian, your group developed in Europe in the 1500s.

If you are a Congregationalist, your religion branched off Puritanism in the early 1600s in England.

If you are a Baptist, you owe the tenets of your religion to John Smyth, who launched it in Amsterdam in 1607.

If you are a Methodist, your religion was founded by John and Charles Wesley in England in 1744.

If you are an Episcopalian, your religion came from England to the American colonies. It formed a separate religion founded by Samuel Seabury in 1789.

Continued
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PART 2 OF 2

If you are a Mormon (Latter-day Saints), Joseph Smith started your church in Palmyra, N.Y. in 1830.

If you are an agnostic, you profess an uncertainty or a skepticism about the existence of God.

If you are an atheist, you do not believe in the existence of God.

–End of Article–

Very entertaining, however very insulting. The Roman Catholic church is NOT the church founded by jesus. Jesus didn’t found any church, his diciples did. Until about AD 300 "catholic (lower-case “c”) was used to describe the universal body of Christians. Then a cult called Roman Catholic (upper-case "C’) was founded.

“”""If you are an atheist, you do not believe in the existence of God.

–End of Article""""

They always save the best, and true, “religion” for last! http://forums.catholic.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[quote=Katholikos]Since the Bible doesn’t make that claim, why do you believe it?

Christ didn’t leave us a book when He returned to heaven. He left us a Church (Mt 16:18-19). He expects his followers to belong to the Church that he founded for the salvation of the world; the Church is His representative on earth. The Church speaks for Chirst (Luke 10:16). The Church wrote the New Testament. Neither the NT nor the Bible existed as we know them until the Church was nearly 400 years old.

The Catholic Church did not come out of the Bible, as all Protestant churches do. The Bible came out of the Church.

A little knowledge of history does a person a world of good. Sola Scriptura is a fallacy.

Protestants blame the Holy Spirit for each of the thousands of conflicting and competent denominations by claiming that the Holy Spirit leads everyone to the “truth.” Well, if the Spirit didn’t lead the 7th Day Adventists or the Jehovah’s Witnesses or the Mormons or the Two-Seed-in-the-Spirit Predestinarian Baptists to the “truth,” what makes you think he’s leading you?

JMJ Jay
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Hi Jay,You are right that the apostles did not walk with a bible in hand,but they did walk with Christ who was the Word. I praise God that today we do have Gods written Word called the Bible.Okay so you want to give Catholics the praise for putting it into a book form. Im with you on that.But the fact is the Bible is sufficiant to meet all our needs if we take all that is written and put it into practice.He also left us with the Five Fold Ministries to help us.God Bless.

[quote=Led Zeppelin75]The Roman Catholic church is NOT the church founded by jesus. Jesus didn’t found any church, his diciples did.
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Matthew 16:18
"And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

That was Jesus speaking.

Until about AD 300 "catholic (lower-case “c”) was used to describe the universal body of Christians. Then a cult called Roman Catholic (upper-case "C’) was founded.

Those who were around at the time (The Early Church Fathers) disagree with you - and I believe they know better than you do:

catholic.com/library/What_Catholic_Means.asp

God bless you (even if you don’t believe in Him, He believes in you),
Paul

[quote=Led Zeppelin75]PART 2 OF 2

Very entertaining, however very insulting. The Roman Catholic church is NOT the church founded by jesus. Jesus didn’t found any church, his diciples did. Until about AD 300 "catholic (lower-case “c”) was used to describe the universal body of Christians. Then a cult called Roman Catholic (upper-case "C’) was founded.

“”""If you are an atheist, you do not believe in the existence of God.

–End of Article""""

They always save the best, and true, “religion” for last! http://forums.catholic.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
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If you want to know the truth, immerse yourself in first-century history as I did. You could start with The Founding of Christendom, Volume I of a 6-volume history of Christianity written by Warren H. Carroll, the distinguished Columbia-trained historian and founder of Christendom College, one of the 10 best liberal arts colleges in the U.S.

Choose your “historians” carefully. I read only the works of university-trained, accredited historians whose work is reviewed by their peers. None of those Bible-college graduates have the credentials of an objective, analytical, academic who is trained in the methods of historical research. There are many “wannabe’s” who call themselves “historians,” but have no credentials. They write garbage and pass it off as history. Some people will believe anything:p.

In the early centuries of Christianity there was the Catholic Church and there were the heresies. Period. “Roman” is the name of one of the Rites of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.

I was once an atheist, but common sense overcame me.

JMJ Jay
Ex-Southern Baptist, ex-agnostic, ex-atheist, ecstatic to be Catholic

[quote=SPOKENWORD]Hi Jay,You are right that the apostles did not walk with a bible in hand,but they did walk with Christ who was the Word. I praise God that today we do have Gods written Word called the Bible.Okay so you want to give Catholics the praise for putting it into a book form. Im with you on that.But the fact is the Bible is sufficiant to meet all our needs if we take all that is written and put it into practice.He also left us with the Five Fold Ministries to help us.God Bless.
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Why do you believe that since the Bible doesn’t say it?
The New Testament is not an instruction book in Christianity.
Why do you (and every other Protestant) treat it as one?

This five-fold ministry you keep talking about is just somebody’s spin.

Please answer my Q – if the Spirit is not leading all Christians, what assurance do you have that he’s leading you?

Peace be with you,

JMJ Jay

1 Timothy 3:15 tells us where we are to look for Truth and guidance. We are not to look to our own intellect, but to the Church. ***Scripture says so. ***
Now what Church do you suppose Timothy was referring to? :hmmm:

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