Why are converted Catholics often more zealous, militant or pure (whichever way you want to see it) and is this a good thing?


#1

Going through forum postings I notice that the posts from people who identify themselves as converted or reverted, often tend to be much more zealous, to letter of the law, and have attitudes removed from the real world.

Is this a good or a bad thing?

Are these people merely purer better Catholics? Or are they overzealous?

Maybe I´m more moderate or watered-down because I view some opinions as intolerent and impractical. Some things seem to go against the basic tenets of Christianity (love, compassion, tolerence) but maybe I just don´t have a deep enough undestanding and perhaps I need to take more note of what they say to be a better catholic. I don´t know.

I´d like people´s opionions on this


#2

I would say converts can be more zealous because they made the choice to become Catholic after doing the research. They are not Catholic simply because their parents were.

Tolerance btw is not a Catholic virtue. It is a secular humanism “virtue” The reason it is not an authentic virtue is that it is not always a good thing. For example porn, adultery, slavery, abortion, violence etc. should not be tolerated. Perhaps the word you are looking for is charity. We can always be charitable yet firm when discussing the issues above.

Sometimes people on these forums come across as harsh because they are passionate about certain issues. Sometimes they have been deeply hurt by the issue at hand. Also, they are often reacting to other posters and forget about the OP,

I encourage you to get a copy of the catechism of the Catholic church. I have found it to have very well articulated reasons for some of “difficult” teachings of the church.

God Bless!


#3

Good point on the tolerence issue. For me, Jesus Christ is the most loving tolerent compassionate figure I can imagine, but not tolerent as in “anything goes”, rather a deep respect and love for everyone, even if they are not good christians or even christians at all. I guess that´s what I wanted to sum up by using the word tolerent but you were right to correct me.


#4

Ask God for zeal and He will give it you! :wink:


#5

You’ve heard the expression “zealous as a convert”? Many times it is simply b/c it is new and exciting and they are “into it”. Some of these people’s zeal lessen over times but many do not. Of course, if you are on these sites, you are probably going to me more zealous than most.


#6

For me, something that hasn’t changed with belief (I was an atheist) is my attitude about religion. It was and is, “Go hard or go home.” I could never understand believers who were members of any church yet claimed to disagree with the doctrines. What has changed is that when I meet these folks instead of sneering and making a rude noise I smile and mentally pray for them.


#7

For me, it’s because I read about and stuggled with all the doctrines and have been convinced that they are true. Many people who are born and raised Catholic sort of assume that it’s true just like they assume that the ocean is thousands of feet deep, even though they’ve never really looked to make sure. People who ask questions and dig deeper are more likely to be zealous. They own it more than those that just go with the flow.


#8

Same reason for wealth. If you were poor and became wealthy, you would appreciate it more than someone who was born into wealth.

Especially if you did it on your own. :thumbsup:


#9

“bibagirl” I don’t know the answer to your question; but I can say this… that I am deeply grateful to God… for the presence of Catholic converts in the Church.

Sometimes, we “Cradle Catholics” tend to take for granted all the Treasures of Faith, that we have been so accustomed to… from the very beginning. And that is truly sad.

Thank You, Lord… for leading so many souls to the Catholic Church. They are examples and teachers for all of us.

Great question! God bless.


#10

My dear friend

Catholics have a big responsibility to bring all to the one true church. Can make you a bit zealous.
The devil attacks catholics much more than others.
Not all but some may be like our Lord and St Paul in the eyes of others. See quotes-

Matt.11
18] For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He has a demon'; **19**] the Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say,Behold, a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’ Yet wisdom is justified by her deeds."

John.10
19] There was again a division among the Jews because of these words.
20] Many of them said, "He has a demon, and he is mad; why listen to him?"
21] Others said, “These are not the sayings of one who has a demon. Can a demon open the eyes of the blind?”

Luke.23

31] For if they do this when the wood is green, what will happen when it is dry?"
32] Two others also, who were criminals, were led away to be put to death with him.

Matt.10
21] Brother will deliver up brother to death, and the father his child, and children will rise against parents and have them put to death;
22] and you will be hated by all for my name’s sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved.
23] When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next; for truly, I say to you, you will not have gone through all the towns of Israel, before the Son of man comes.
24] "A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master;
25] it is enough for the disciple to be like his teacher, and the servant like his master. If they have called the master of the house Be-el’zebul, how much more will they malign those of his household.
26] "So have no fear of them; for nothing is covered that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known.
27] What I tell you in the dark, utter in the light; and what you hear whispered, proclaim upon the housetops.
28] And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Acts.26
24] And as he thus made his defense, Festus said with a loud voice, "Paul, you are mad; your great learning is turning you mad."
25] But Paul said, "I am not mad, most excellent Festus, but I am speaking the sober truth.

Hope the scripture quots shed light on this subject dear friend.

May God bless yo abundantly:thumbsup::slight_smile:
John


#11

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