So I called into the CAL to talk about why be pro-choice on 19Sept2018 with Trent. The conversation was going along fine and we had to take a break. They hung up on me over the break and every time I tried to call back in, they kept hanging up on me without ever explaining why. I used the name Carlos from Denver.
So if we could pick it up where we left off with this conversation.
The pro-choice position, as I understand it, is about consent of use for someone’s body. I gave the example of how a woman consenting to sex is fine, but as soon as she withdraws it or never gives it to begin with, it is called rape since it is a violation of her body against her consent. This is the conflict between someone else’s right to life and someone else’s right to bodily use. Your right to life is secondary to my right to defend myself from you assaulting me. I get to stop you from assaulting me and can use lethal force if I have to since you have to have my consent to use my body. That seems to be the argument. Killing someone to stop them from assaulting you is not a moral action to take, but it is a necessary action to end the assault. So abortion is an immoral justified action in that you are violating someone else’s humanity by killing them (the immoral part), but justified because you are trying to stop the assault on your body by someone else you do not consent to use your body. So its about, can you justify why you took someone’s life. Not whether or not it is moral. Killing someone in self defense or not is still killing someone and that is an immoral action. Hope that clears up the line between a justified action and a moral action.
Parents are not required to donate kidneys to their child without the parents’ consent, even if the child dies. The child is a human at an earlier stage of development, just as a fetus is, just as a teenager is. You are not allowed to grant one group of people special rights over others. It must be applied equally to all. Since the child has no right to the parents’ kidney without consent, the fetus has no right to use the mother to stay alive without her consent. Otherwise everyone that is not an organ donor is a murder then. Ending a pregnancy is ending the assault of the fetus to the woman since the woman is not consenting. The fetus will die of natural causes without that connection to the woman just like a child that needs a kidney will die if the parents do not donate a kidney. Even if the parents were in charge of the event that caused the child to need a kidney transplant, the child does not have a right to the parents’ kidneys. Such as if the parents ran a red light, caused a car accident with their child in the car. How is this different from adults engaging in sex and having an accidental pregnancy and then the woman decides to not save the child’s life by choosing not to use her body to save it?