Why do Catholics vote Democrat?


#1

Hello,

I have never understood how people who are so traditional with their faith vote so liberal in elections. Catholic senators such as Pelosi and V.P. Biden are very liberal in terms of politics so I wonder whether people shove their faith aside when they get elected to office. It just baffles me how 2/3 of catholics always seem to vote for a party that believes in gay marriage, abortions, political correctness, feminism and “tolerance”? Not trying to be rude, just wondering. :shrug:


#2

My family is Catholic and they vote republican. You shouldn’t ask why Catholics vote Democrat because not all do and just because someone claims to be Catholic does not mean they actually are and it certainly doesn’t mean they are a practising Catholic. Some individuals have no idea what their religion is even about.


#3

RELIGION CORRUPTS POLITICS AND VICE VERSA

its all lies.

please, people stop this nonsense.


#4

Not all Catholics vote Democrat. This Catholic, for example, votes Republican. :wink: I think it has a lot to do with the fact that Catholics are still following their tradition of voting Democrat that they started during the 60s and 70s when Democrats were much closer to Catholic social teaching. Of course, I very well could be wrong.


#5

Yes and unfortunately this lack of education is one reason why so many Catholics voted for Obama this past election. :frowning:


#6

Many Catholics vote Democrat because Republicans are perceived as protecting the interests of big business and Democrats are perceived as standing up for the little guy, which is more consistent with Catholic social teaching. You can’t really trust either parties because neither are consistent with authentic Catholic teaching.

If you take away the issues of abortion and gay marriage, the Democrat Party is the one more closely aligned with Catholic ideals. The Republican Party has continued to use these two issues to string along faith-based voters while fiscal concerns remain higher on their list of priorities. In reality, George W. Bush was president for eight years and abortion is still legal. Dick Cheney recently announced support for gay marriage. Many prominent Republican/conservative figures have been caught in gay sex scandals, such as Mark Foley, Ted Haggard, Larry Craig, Bob Allen, Glenn Murphy Jr., and so on. There’s the recent allegation of Republican Gov. Mark Sanford using tax money to finance his extramarital affair.

The Republican Party fail has failed to side with the Church on other important issues such as concern for the poor, capital punishment, immigration, health care, worker’s rights, environmental issues, war, etc.

As for “tolerence,” you have to ask yourself: why are they pushing for tolerence? Because of history. Hate crimes do happen, you know. Accusations of conservatives as “hate-mongering” are not exactly untrue. Though, the same could apply to people of both parties. In terms of race, this is a post-segregation America. Many people living today had experienced life in that era and these are racially-sensitive times. On the issue of tolerence for homosexuals, it is true that many Christians are intolerent of them. You don’t have to look far; just do a search on this forum and you’ll find a few comments. While same-sex-marriage may not be right in God’s eyes, the Church does teach that discrimination against those with same-sex-attraction should be avoided.

After 9/11, I recall reading news stories of individuals resembling Middle Easterns getting attacked on the streets. In one incident, an Indian man was shot and killed because someone thought he was a Muslim. In a John McCain rally, a woman suggests that “Arabs” are not good people (by the way the word Arab refers to the ethnicity, not a religion). Even so, the Catholic Church recognizes that the Muslim religion honors the one God. Catholics do have many things in common with these groups - they were once treated the same.

Catholics have traditionally been a fringe group in America’s history. They were the working class who lived in the urban cities and worked in the factories. Certainly, the Irish Catholics can remember the “IRISH NEED NOT APPLY” signs of 19th century America. The Italian immigrants of the 1900’s were discriminated against and labeled with negative stereotypes, similar to the current state of Latino immigrants. In recent time, there has been much outward hostility exhibited towards Mexicans, in particular, on conservative talk radio. Of course, ties to a party that once stood out for them would remain along the family line. Even now, the current Catholic population has a significant amount of new immigrant families. 35% of all Catholics in the United States are Latino alone.

The Republican Party is traditionally associated with Protestantism. Of course you’ll see a higher percentage of Protestants voting Republican - it’s their party. The Republican Party’s views on capitalism are closely tied to Protestant ideology. This article has a good analysis: time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,872821,00.html

On a similar note, I recall the controversy in 1999, when Republican House members led a fight against selecting Father Timothy O’Brien, a Catholic priest, as the House Chaplain. Dennis Hastert and Dick Armey were reported as saying that most members of the House would be more comfortable with a Protestant minister than with a Catholic priest.

Catholic teaching emphasizes solidarity which is connected to the idea of the Communion of Saints; that all are a part of the mystical Body of Christ and are responsible for each other. Each member contributes to the good of all and shares in the welfare of all. We pray for the souls in purgatory; those in Heaven pray for us; we pray and help our neighbors here on earth. Our beliefs are reflected in Catholic social teaching.

Pope Benedict XVI describes the human person as “the primary capital to be safeguarded and valued" in his latest encyclical. The Church has always put the dignity of the human person above any other issue. The Church does not share in a love for capitalism which the Republican Party has.

In the end, keep in mind that we’re dealing with politicians, not moral leaders.


#7

I vote for George Washington. But no matter how many times I do, he never wins. :frowning:


#8

Thanks and nice work JPUSC.


#9

Every political-minded Catholic ought to read this book.


#10

Except where it REALLY counts… protecting the Innocent Unborn. :nope: In that most important of places… Democrats (the biggest majority of whom, are in favor of abortion) fail… miserably. I would venture a guess that most practicing, believing Catholics, do NOT vote Democrat. But (like the OP) I can’t understand why ANY Catholics would vote Democrat.

(“JPUSC” I didn’t intend this as a personal assault on you, dear soul. But the words jumped out at me… and I needed to make this point; thank you for understanding :hug1: Just wanted to highlight the thought. But we’re on the same page. God bless).


#11

I guess I vote democrat in most elections because I am a bit of an idealist and would like to see universal healthcare and greater business regulation. I think the prolife issue is the most important but even when republicans are in office the abortions continue so why not get a few other bills passed that help quite a few people. The catholic prolife stance isn’t going anywhere, but nothing is going to occur until both parties see the immorality in the act. I’m not sure if this is a flawed thought, but I think it to be pretty logical.


#12

didn’t read whole post yet… but don’t agree…

i would be republican even if not for the gay marriage & abortion issues…

i believe our economy is strongest when big business is strongest… after all, they are the ones who employ the poor and middle class…

i believe we should not tax business anymore than necessary… etc, etc…

Ronald Reagan was awesome…

(I sometimes wonder if it would be OK to pray to him… about the economy…) :confused: but there’s not evidence he’s in heaven… hmmm… :hmmm:


#13

I don’t vote Democrat because they do not represent how I feel on most issues nor will I support any canidate who is pro-abortion regardless of his party, race, gender,or religious affiliation.


#14

to vote for someone who is pro-abortion is to promote abortion…

BHO is changing all that Bush and Reagan did… :mad::mad::mad::mad:


#15

I totally agree. I also won’t support any candidate who is pro-abortion. :thumbsup:


#16

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:clapping::extrahappy::tiphat::clapping:


#17

So what happens if I find anti-immigration laws immoral? Should I just not vote? I’m not trying to be incendiary, I was a bit immoral in years past, and am struggling with my political views not jiving with my moral views (I am pro-life, etc) but I see the socialization of certain industries to be morally ideal (I know communism bad, blah, blah, blah, that is if the leaders are corrupt, right?)


#18

i heard this story about a Black woman who got angry at her White friend for NOT voting for BHO… (both “Catholic”)

can you imagine such a thing??

but then why am i surprised … that Blacks can be just as illogical about race as Whites… apparently…


#19

QUOTE=prayerchanges;5479602]So what happens if I find anti-immigration laws immoral? Should I just not vote?

i don’t understand this… ? :confused:


#20

i could say the same about Jesus…

except He did win … in 1980…


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