[quote="elvisman, post:19, topic:233342"]
Yes, yes - and I'm sure they did the *same* thing in the 1st century when making their "unfermented wine" . . .:rolleyes:
We know that Jesus made real, fermented wine at the Wedding at Cana because of the remark made by the head steward. He observed, *"Everyone serves good wine first, and then when people have drunk freely, an inferior one*; but you have kept the good wine until now."
This implies that people don't care *how* good the wine is after they've had plenty to drink - they just want more.
We also know that Jesus drank real, fermented wine because of his statement:
The Son of Man came eating and drinking and you said, 'Look, he is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners' (Luke 7:34).
Jesus is telling them how they called him a glutton and a drunkard for eating and *drinking* with his friends.
I'm citing the *Bible* and I certainly won't apologize for it . . . ;)
Good call! I agree with your analysis; it is very clear to me that Jesus did use alcohol.
But, I'm sorry, I didn't express myself as well as I could have. I also meant my post to speak to the wider question of the thread, namely, whether Dr. Welch originated the Protestant idea of not using alcohol, and it seems that he did not.
The technology did exist in the 1st century to preserve unfermented grape juice.
not wikipedia this time ;)