In this day and age in America there is no valid reason someone cannot approach the tribunal.
- No witnesses are available to substantiate the alleged ground;
- Knowledgeable witnesses will not cooperate;
- Necessary documents are not obtainable.
- Emotionally unable to relive the horrors of the previous marriage.
- Impediment that cannot be concretely documented.
- Hostile former spouse.
- Psychological inability to openly discuss private matters with a trio of total strangers.
If you feel these are not valid reasons, this would be a good time to thank God you are so emotionally strong and take a moment to pray for those who are NOT so blessed.
The whole premise for this posting is that somehow the regular process lacks compassion, Christian love and all the warm fuzzies. And that a couple who doesn’t like the answer the tribunal gave them can then go and do what they darn well please anyway.
None of that was anywhere near my intent. .
At no time did I suggest the external forum lacks compassion. At no time did I suggest it should be avoided.
Folks, sometimes, loving God means proving HE is more important and HIS law is more important than a created being. A lot of people “know” things in their hearts that just aren’t so. They convince themselves of things that are wrong.
I don’t disagree. Precisely WHY an IFS requires a process and a priest.
So you WANT to be married and you’ll make yourself new rules to get it. Nice. I could declare myself pope but that doesn’t make it so either.
??? I guess a court of law could declare a man guilty but even though he knows in his heart that he is innocent, no court or jury could ever be wrong.
I suspect the people who so want to receive communion that they will play fast with the rules and do the annulment on the fly don’t really mean that part of the prayer that goes “THY will be done”.
Fast with “the rules”? " Anullment on the fly?"
(Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 1778).
In current Catholic teaching, “Man has the right to act according to his conscience and in freedom so as personally to make moral decisions. He must not be forced to act contrary to his conscience. **Nor must he be prevented from acting according to his conscience, especially in religious matters” **(ibid., paragraph 1782). In certain situations involving individual personal decisions that are incompatible with church law, some pastors rely on the use of the internal forum solution.
“With regard to admission to the sacraments, the local ordinaries will also please, on the one hand, stress the observance of the current discipline of the church while, on the other hand, take care that pastors of souls follow up with particular solicitude those who are living in an irregular union and, in addition to other correct means, use the approved practice of the Church in the internal forum." (Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith’s document of April 11, 1973)
Can. 130 Of itself the power of governance is exercised for the external forum; sometimes however it is exercised for the internal forum only, but in such a way that the effects which its exercise is designed to have in the external forum are not acknowledged in that forum . . .
Roger Michael Cardinal Mahony
Sept 18, 2004
"The Archdiocese will continue to follow church teaching, which places the duty on each Catholic to examine their consciences as to their worthiness to receive Holy Communion. That is not the role of the person distributing the Body and Blood of Christ."
I wouldn’t want to stand before the all-Knowing God who KNEW the TRUTH . . . have to account for the public scandal.
But you know, that’s exactly IT! Who is there that knows a person’s true heart but GOD? All the priest can do in offering the IFS to a party is say, “I understand. Now it is between you and God.” He can’t bless, convalidate or even record the marriage in the Church records. All he can do is leave it between the person and GOD who is always the final judge, having first aided and guided an examination of conscience,.
The Bishops and the Pope are pretty wise to the way this kind of thing can be abused. A competent priest in the confessional will HELP the couple obey the laws of the Church
I agree. See various Church laws above. But the tribunal is open to abuse also. Ever read "Shattered Faith’?
Can the sacrament of reconciliation be abused?
Can people without a clear conscience BS the priest and come away TRULY absolved?
Same with IFS
. . . portrays the OFFICIAL Church as a heartless monster that doesn’t care if its members can receive Communion . . .
Who said THAT?
You can fool everyone, but not God.
And consider that the Holy Spirit actually works through the priests in the tribunal . . .
Minor point, but most tribunals are staffed partly or wholly by lay people.
Also, doesn’t the Holy Spirit work through a Priest in an Internal Forum?
I see the IFS as a huge display of lack of trust in God and lack of obedience, which probably had much to do with the failure of the first marriage with some people. Face it, if people trusted and obeyed God, their marriages would work.
Gross generalization. There are actually a MYRIAD of reasons why marriages fail, many of which have nothing to do with what you just described.
There is always at least one person in any marriage who didn’t play by all the rules. And the OP wants to institutionalize that attitude.
How interesting that you so completely understand MY intent and purpose, but don’t believe anyone could possibly understand their OWN.