[quote=Angainor]With respect, I don’t believe Timothy was referring to the institution that is the Catholic Church when he was talking of the household of God.
:mad: If I didn’t know you meant no ill will by your statement, I would feel rather irritated that you would so boldy exclude me and my Protestant bretheren from the household of God simply because we are not card-carrying members of the institution that is the Catholic Church. I would be tempted to think that was mighty arrogant of you, that is, if i didn’t know you meant no ill will by saying so.
Certainly he was talking of the Holy Catholic church, which was the Church built on the Apostles Peter and Paul and the other Apostles. There was no other for 1600 years. Do I exclude you? No, we have come to realize you have a kernal of truth in all protestant denominations, just not the fullness of truth. Do I believe you have been baptized validly? If you were baptized according to the Trinity, then yes. Do I believe you have other valid sacraments? No. Do I believe you have faith in Christ as our Lord and Savior? Only you can tell me that. Do I believe you will be saved? Only GOD can tell you that Not trying to be arrogant, just telling you what we believe, and what I believe in particular. Am I God to judge you on the state of your soul and whether or not you will get to heaven? No…I’m not, nor do I pretend to be.
So…there was only ONE Church at the time Timothy was written, it is the Holy Catholic Church. So, scripture proves your first statement wrong about the Church not being truth…but we have to realize that many IN the Church can be wrong. When the Church herself, (as the bride of Christ, as the body of Christ) teaches, she cannot teach error. So this tells us that not ONLY are the teachings of the Church truth, but the Church herself, in order to BE the bride and body of Christ, is truth. \
Hope that cleared it up for you