Why is the Catholic Church in America not producing Saints?


I’ve been wondering this for a long time. Sadly, I don’t think it’s an American thing. Europe is probably slacking in this area as well. Is it because we aren’t promoting vocations to religious orders and monasteries anymore? Monasticism and religious orders were big Saint-making machines, yet in America we don’t tend to promote them at all.

I’m not saying that no one in America is going to Heaven. We have some great examples, like Fr. Solanus Casey and Archbp. Fulton Sheen, but we just aren’t seeing this on a wider scale. I’d really love to see an end to this phobia of monasticism within the Catholic Church here in the US. Our Orthodox brothers and sisters have been producing many Saints, which I don’t doubt that they are Saints. Many of them lead fantastically holy lives. Why are we slipping up here in America?

Now, I know that just because I don’t hear about it that it doesn’t mean we aren’t. However, what can we do at the laity level to promote vocations to monasteries for monks and nuns? If we believe to have the entire truth, would should be promoting these things and God will take care of the rest.

That’s my little rant on the subject. What saith you?

Alaha minokhoun,


How do you know that the Catholic Church in the US is not producing saints? Many people are leading lives of heoric holiness, but they don’t make any headlines. Vocations appear to be picking up, and I’m sure that includes monastic vocations. Remember, we don’t know what’s happening behind monastery, convent, and seminary doors, as well as the doors of homes and chirches.

Linda :thumbsup:


St. Juan Diego
St. Katharine Drexel
Blessed Kateri Tekakwitha
St. Elizabeth Seton
Blessed _____ Pro (and all the other Christeros in Mexico)
Blessed Junipero Serra

Causes for Canonization Opened:
Fulton Sheen
Cardinal O’Connor
Fr. John Hardon

there are more…


My Father is Saint-he joined his fellow American Saints three years ago.


Good question. After all, everyone who dies in a state of grace is a saint.

– Mark L. Chance.


Father Augustine Smith/Prince Demetrius Gallitzin


I think they are being produced every day, in small towns and big cities, where anonymous individuals faithfully commit themselves to their God and their vocations.

I could name any number of them right now – but nobody here would likely know who they were. :wink:


Every American Catholic who trusts in Christ alone for salvation is a saint


Sainthood is not limited to canonization, you know.

All who persevere and hear that glorious “Well done, thou good and faithful servant” are saints.

It just so happens that America produces fewer famous saints.

Given some outstanding candidates, we may see a glut soon.

I would also note that America doesn’t produce as many Catholic martyrs, chiefly because America doesn’t slaughter Catholics (at least, once we make it out of the womb).

We of course have a number of American missionaries who may well meet the martyr’s end, but time will tell as to how many of these the Church may canonize in the end and so make famous.


That’s what I’m talking about though. I know that Sainthood is NOT limited to canonization, but was rather curious why the Latin Church, in the US in particular, is not promoting monasticism, which has produced so many great Saints for the Latin Church over the centuries. Many of the Eastern Catholic Churches promote it a lot, and I suspect we will be seeing some more American Saints coming from them.

Alaha minokhoun,


That is a very good point.

How about these for starters?

  1. Given the crisis in priestly vocations, U.S. Bishops prefer to steer candidates toward the priesthood and the parishes rather than to the monasteries.

  2. One outlet for monks has been education. We have a monastery right up the road (Belmont Abbey)—it is tied to a Catholic college. Fewer Catholic colleges in America means fewer places to seat monks with the teaching vocation means less demand for monks.

  3. Ditto Catholic primary schools, where brothers have historically been on the faculty.

  4. The monastic life may be a tougher sell in a prosperous country such as the United States.

  5. Tax laws may disadvantage monastic orders relative to churches in America.

  6. The secularization of American education may diminish the prominence of monasticism in the eyes of Americans. Most came to understand monasticism through rigorous study of Western history in primary schools. Such study no longer happens—history has been replaced by “social studies” courses wherein one is far more likely to study the lives of Eugene Debs and other Socialists than St Francis of Assissi.

You may want to invite Brother Rich to this thread—he would know far better than I would.

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