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I find it so odd that Nazism a particularly old sort of fascism still get's so much attention in pop culture but stuff relating to the Soviet Union and communism doesn't.I mean I know that a large part of this is b/c Nazism is genuinely evil but consider how the Soviet Union and communism has been depicted in media when we know now that there was a lot of subtly when the Soviet's did bad stuff (esp.in the post-Stalinist era). .Now it's been years since the Cold war ended and we can be more less politically biased (I assume) and we obviously now have thorough and lots of historical hindsight now as to how Soviet communism was really done.Also there are very much large generational demographics of people who've lived through that stuff that we can go to in order to get more accurate depictions of how Soviet communism was really like and there experiences unlike with Nazism and how a lot of the people who lived through that stuff are old and dying off.I for example would like to see a movie remake of Doctor Zhivago (an update from the '65 one) and a movie adaptation of "We" by Yevgeny Zamyatin.In general stuff that strongly shows and delves into the implications of such a political ideology instead of just about showing the atrocities commited by a political group.I mean have it be done like in "Schnidler's list" which I felt hit the balance well of showing not just the horrors of the Holocaust but a very indifferent and pragmatic man like Oscar Schindler who didn't care much for what Nazism stood for and it's objectives,always playing in the sidelines until fairly later one when he realizes how terrible he's been for ignoring the evil that's been done around him that whole time.However a difference that would have to be noted when trying to hit such a balance of showing subtext and conspicously horrible political doings if there were ever to be a *"We" *movie adaptation and *"Doctor Zhivago" *remake is that these are fictional books unlike *"Schnidler's list" *which was based on real events.I mean why is it that your more likely to see something as silly as *"Iron sky" *a movie about Nazi descendants having hid on the moon to invade Earth but not a politically neutral and intellectual portrayal of Soviet communism outside of the usual gulag and spy stuff?.
The Russians became the new enemy before the last shots of World War II were fired. The Cold War began immediately. Russian soldiers and pilots, including women soldiers and combat pilots, could not be glorified. The Katyn Forest massacre of Polish troops and even a few religious could not be officially blamed on the Russians because they claimed the Germans did it. Only recently has a monument been erected by the Russians.
Provoking the Russians by depicting say Stalin, in a movie as a mass murderer would not be wise. Or relating the event called the Holodomor where Ukrainians were left to starve to death. Or Stalin ordering the killing of those he felt were a threat to the State, including men in the military and scientists. Details are only now coming out to paint a fuller picture of the attack on Stalingrad by the Germans. A comment was made: "What if you lost a million men during the attack on Stalingrad?" The reply: "We would have sent in a million more." Just compare the population of Germany to Russia at the time.
Shortly after the end of the war, Churchill asked his military commanders what might occur if the fully armed Russians decided to take over Western Europe. Under "Operation Unthinkable," elements of the German Army and Waffen SS would have to have been reactivated, but a long, protracted war was predicted. Clandestine flights over the Soviet Union by British and American aircraft began in 1946, even though the head of German foreign intelligence, Reinhard Gehlen, surrendered himself and his Russian files to the Americans at the end of the war, and there was a direct link with the Gehlen Organization and the CIA.
By 1949, The Russians had tested their first atomic bomb. In 1950, using a copy of a British jet engine which was purchased from the British, they immediately put the engine in their MIG 15 and fought along with the North Koreans when the Korean War started in 1950. By 1959, the Russians and Americans deployed ICBMs.
The Cold War just kept getting hotter. After the fall of the Soviet Union, access to Russian wartime files was restricted - some were opened for a while and then closed. Other scholars would get some sporadic cooperation and much of what happened between 1945 and 1991 is still veiled in secrecy. Unfortunately, there were Communist sympathizers in the United States who were very disappointed about the fall of the USSR. New books are starting to reveal the extent of Soviet espionage in the US in the past, which has been largely denied until recently.
Anti-semitism was a big thing in Communist Russia as well.
I doubt you'll see anything about what went on during the Communist period in movies. The truth will be limited to highly specialized books not aimed at a general audience and documentaries that, again, will see limited release.
I don't want to start a "who murdered more people" body count thread, but Stalin's body count was quite substantial. The difference is, we had defeated the Germans - not the Russians, who were our Allies of convenience during the war and our enemy just before the war ended. Yes, there was propaganda published about the evils of Communism but there were Americans who admired Communism as well.
I just read that for the first time, there are more billionaires in Moscow than New York.