Why "Lord" and not "Father" Isn't Jesus "Lord"


#1

I have always found it confusing during the Mass when we address the Father as “Lord” and then in the same prayer say something like, “We ask this through our Lord Jesus Jesus…” I have a difficult time focusing on whom we are praying to. What is the theology behind the Church’s choice of these words?


#2

The theology behind it is simply that both Christ and the Father are Lord. However, the majority of the time during Mass (as far as I can tell), Lord refers to Jesus. Regardless, it is rarely used on its own (it is usually paired with the name, e.g., Lord Jesus Christ). Some times, G-d is referred to as Lord G-d.


#3

We are praying to both God the Father and Jesus in either case, because they are one.


#4

Forgetting the Athanasian Creed?

Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled; without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; Neither confounding the Persons; nor dividing the Essence. For there is one Person of the Father; another of the Son; and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one; the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal. Such as the Father is; such is the Son; and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father uncreated; the Son uncreated; and the Holy Ghost uncreated. The Father unlimited; the Son unlimited; and the Holy Ghost unlimited. The Father eternal; the Son eternal; and the Holy Ghost eternal. And yet they are not three eternals; but one eternal. As also there are not three uncreated; nor three infinites, but one uncreated; and one infinite. So likewise the Father is Almighty; the Son Almighty; and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not three Almighties; but one Almighty. So the Father is God; the Son is God; and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not three Gods; but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord; the Son Lord; and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not three Lords; but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity; to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord; So are we forbidden by the catholic religion; to say, There are three Gods, or three Lords. The Father is made of none; neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created; but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten; but proceeding. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is before, or after another; none is greater, or less than another. But the whole three Persons are coeternal, and coequal. So that in all things, as aforesaid; the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved, let him thus think of the Trinity.

Furthermore it is necessary to everlasting salvation; that he also believe faithfully the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess; that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man; God, of the Essence of the Father; begotten before the worlds; and Man, of the Essence of his Mother, born in the world. Perfect God; and perfect Man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father, as touching his Godhead; and inferior to the Father as touching his Manhood. Who although he is God and Man; yet he is not two, but one Christ. One; not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh; but by assumption of the Manhood by God. One altogether; not by confusion of Essence; but by unity of Person. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man; so God and Man is one Christ; Who suffered for our salvation; descended into hell; rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into heaven, he sitteth on the right hand of the God the Father Almighty, from whence he will come to judge the living and the dead. At whose coming all men will rise again with their bodies; And shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil, into everlasting fire. This is the catholic faith; which except a man believe truly and firmly, he cannot be saved.

God bless.


#5

The Latin for Lord is “Dominus” from which we get the English “domain” among other things. It also means “Master, owner.” Spanish use “Senor”. Have you heard “Senor God” which is really confusing?

“Father” is probably more specific as far as the Deity is concerned.


#6

And the Holy Spirit.

Where there is One, there are Three. Where there are Three, there is One.


#7

Historically the term Lord was used to refer to God comes form the practice of the Hebrews of not pronouncing the name of God. So in practice the name for God was substituted with Lord.
Since there is one God in three persons, we address the Father as Father, God, Father God, Lord God, Heavenly Father, the son as Jesus, Christ, Lord Jesus, to name a few.


#8

Correct, that is why in the Kyrie, we proclaim

Lord Have Mercy, Christ Have Mercy, Lord Have Mercy. The Spirit there is referred to as Lord, as is the Father.


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#10

And then of course we proclaim: “We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life”


#11

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