Do you believe certain aspects of our Catholic faith could be deemed discriminatory or “hate speech” and thus be forced to change or be denied the ability to conduct business? My parish processes online payments for donations, Visa could theoretically do what they are doing to Gab to many parishes.
What if Visa did this to all members of a Cathoilc parish and thier families?
Gab is one of the favourites for alt-right, white supremacist, and anti-semitism. I wouldn’t infer too much from Visa being added to the list of companies not doing business with them. Microsoft stopped associating with them. Godaddy stopped associating with them. There is a long list…
It has for some time been the case that advertisers and businesses tend to avoid associations that hurt their brands. Because of the content that Gab allows there is a business risk to being associated with them.
This…and remember the beatitude that blessed are those persecuted for his namesake…the haters don’t realize it, but believers understand the are helping us along the road to salvation rather than causing us real harm!
It is possible to be persecuted in such a way. The real question is how many Catholics will resist. As Catholics, we are called to lay down our lives for Christ. Will we lay them down in a time of this kind of persecution? I would say that 80+% would give in, and only a small percent would stay the course. This is why we need to study and live a devout life so we are strong in our faith and cannot be moved. Jesus said we will be tested.
Visa is a private company, not an arm of the government. They’re allowed to choose who they do and don’t work with.
Visa is unlikely to reject anyone as a customer unless they see a huge risk. The Catholic Church does not pose a huge risk, especially with the number of Catholics in this country. Furthermore, the Church is not one centralized business that depends on Visa to run.
Catholics need to stop identifying themselves with every fringe free speech platform out there.
We also have no way of knowing if Torba’s story is true, or if he has left out key details. I don’t take any of these stories at face value.
Everything we profess is against the so-called sensibilities of the world.
The preservation of human life especially children the fact the Church is against abortion and euthanasia.
The Churches stance against suicide even medical assisted suicide.
The Churches defense of the traditional family unit and traditional marriage.
The Church does not see eye to eye with people living actively homosexual lifestyles, same sex couples adopting children, or using in vitro fertilization.
The Church’s stance against in vitro fertilization and that fertilized eggs human beings are discarded and destroyed.
There’s also the fact that it requires an unnatural act which is against the natural law through self abuse.
The Church’s stance against fornication, self-abuse, pornography, and all manner of indecency and impurity.
The Churches condemnation against Freemasonry and other humanist and occult secret organizations.
The Church’s stance against pantheism, animism, and all manner of paganism and the fact that Dogmatically the Church proclaims that outside the Church there can be no salvation.
Even if it seems the Church or more truthfully certain clerical and lay members of the Church have forgotten some of these beliefs through its perennial teachings the Church continues to teach these things and will continue to teach these things until the end of the world.
@governator This was precisely my point in making this post. Thank you for writing out all those points.
I don’t use Gab. I don’t have any allegiance to Gab. But I was intrigued that they were banned by a major mainstream financial company because they viewed their business as supporting hate speech. Many things we believe as Catholics already go against what popular culture believes. In my state catholic charities had to stop doing adoptions and foster care because they would not place children with same sex couples. I don’t think it’s a stretch to think in the future the church may be targeted by major companies, like Visa. Or if not the church, Catholics themselves.