Will my dog be in Heaven?


#103

Not quite, “Sirius” is but one of the 8 stars that make up the constellation “Canis Major”.
It is the constellation that forms the “big dog”, one of Orion’s two hunting hounds.

These 8 stars apparently look like a dog. Those Greeks and Muslims had very vivid imaginations.
As you yourself also seem to!


#104

Got to love the alien crop circle on his arm - have you got one also?

Don’t believe in them myself - too many teenagers creeping around mid summer nights with lawnmowers and too little to do after blowing their minds on this sort of music and maybe drugs :slightly_smiling_face:


#105

Lol.


#106

Wonderful post, Autumn! Comforting and wise words! Thank you!


#107

Thank you for explaining all this, Father. I imagine “do our pets go to Heaven” is not a question priests enjoy getting.


#108

Part of what I think is lost in some of this teaching is the notion that only human nature was corrupted due to the fall. It affected everything. So all things can be redeemed in Christ. There are pious legends of saints preaching the gospel to and affecting non human members of the circle of life. Wolves, fish, even dragons… so… what is the point if any of them are excluded from redemption? Regardless of Aquinian ideas of various types of soul… God sustains everything through his love soo… anything that is alive has a soul…

There is a military phrase “dumb as a rock.”

Well Christ said even the rocks would cry out.

Edit:
It might not be explicit dogma… but doesn’t rule out the realm of possibility.

Edit: and if that dog doesn’t know what guilt is… I don’t want to go to heaven.


#109

Excellent book.


#110

Thank you. I found it extremely interesting and thought-provoking.


#111

Yes this is a very valid observation I think.

There is much in the Bible that sees nature reflecting the moral state of the sons and daughters of men as a whole. As if there is some hidden connection between the state of Man and the state of nature.

Therefore when Original Justice is fully restored (man’s soul is fully and harmoniously subjected to God, man’s body is fully subjected to the soul) then there seems no reason why the new earth cannot be fully and harmoniously subjected to redeemed human nature in some glorious way.

The glorious property of “subtility” may even allow us, with God’s assistance, to truly recreate our favourite animals.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12792a.htm

Who knows, but there seem to be many valid Catholic possibilities.


#112

Hi.

With all due respect, didn’t Jesus say, “The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing”? (John 6:63) All flesh dies. It is the soul that lives eternally. So if we were to eat the flesh of an animal, the soul is separate from the body. The soul separates from the body at death. The soul is sacred, the body is not. This wouldn’t necessarily mean that animals wouldn’t be in heaven. All creatures belong to God, and God knows the eternal destiny of all his creatures. It is the soul that is important, not the body. The same God who allowed animals to be killed for food, also knows the outcome of their souls.

Yes, we are worth more than thousands of sparrows. And even an animal who took the life of a human was put to death in Old Testament times. We are made in God’s Image. The animals are not. But all of this ‘reasoning’, at least to my thinking, doesn’t ‘prove’ that animals don’t have an afterlife.


#113

My dear friend in Christ;

The bible speaks many languages; and uses various tools of authorship. These can be found throuhout the bible; for example:

“And if thy eye scandalize thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee. It is better for thee having one eye to enter into life, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.”
[Matthew 18:9]

Obviously God is not telling us literally to pluck our eye out. Rather the Lesson here is to trian oneself to look away and thus avoid sin.

No book in the bible is more metaphorically loaded than Revelations; as John wrote this is a sort of homemade morris-code; due to the severe persecution the Church was under. It’s written almost as a fable.

The white horse represents “Perfect purity”; and perfect in every way: verse 11 and Christ; verse 14 and the good Angels.

GREAT care is to be taken when reading the bible.

In Order to enter heaven it has to ne merited; to be merited requires in an absolute sense the ability to be RATIONAL. In the entire Created Universe only Humanity is RATIONAL; hence only humanity can choose for themselves eternal hell or heaven.

May the Holy Spirit guide your path,
Patrick


#114

Is that an infallible teaching or is it possible to disagree?
BTW, it is also mentioned that there are birds in the afterlife.


#115

No, it’s a very much dreaded question.

It usually means that some child’s pet just died.


#116

No. No. No…

The body, the human body, is very much sacred. The human person is made of both body and soul, and the entire human person is sacred.

And it doesn’t matter what ones emotions might say or what anyone just happens to “think things might be.” This question was settled long ago. We do know the answer. Not liking it doesn’t change the answer.


#117

It is certainly an infallible teaching that only human nature was assumed at the Incarnation.


#118


#119

You are right. And in some cultures, mostly past cultures, but some still extant, it’s considered perfectly fine to eat the flesh of a dead human.


#120

With all due respect, a priest told my grandmother the same thing, in almost the same words (as my grandmother related it to me) about limbo. An unbaptized baby in the town where she lived had died, and it was not allowed to be buried in consecrated ground, which distressed my grandmother greatly even though she was not related to the child. A priest told her she was being overly-emotional, and the question was settled: all unbaptized babies go to limbo. The Church has now reversed itself on this thinking.


#121

FWIW most of the arguments against limbo are also emotionally driven.

But it’s still not a valid comparison. God saving unbaptized infants is a rationally coherent idea, even if there’s no reason to believe it will actually happen.


#122

No one knows that. But I believe God takes care of his all creations. Maybe there is a different place for animals, angels etc.


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