Peace and Joy of Christ to all who visit this thread.
This is a follow up on the thread “If there is no heaven, will you still love God?”
To the Moderator:
If following up on a thread that has been closed is not allowed then you will obviously need to delete this thread. I hope though that you will give this topic a second chance.
There are a few posts from Nom the Wise which I was intending to address when the thread was closed and I bring these up here.
Noms post 539
[quote=Nom the Wise]Point #1 = The OP is a fallacy precisely because it is not true. There is Heaven. That makes the question invalid and illicit if taken literally.
Point #2 = As a “What if” scenario ONLY it is valid for the reasons you have pointed out, but you and others have come to heretical conclusions in your attempts at reasoning it out (and I don’t mean “all” but some).
I felt I had to answer that (again).
I have edited this post slightly to number the paragraphs as points 1 and 2.
On point number two you said the OP is only valid for the reasons I have pointed out.
Now the reason I have pointed out for the OP’s validity is that, it is valid (and therefore not fallacious), precisely because it is not true. Yet on point one you are saying that the OP is a fallacy because it is not true. You surely cannot be saying that the reason for its validity is at the same time the reason for it being fallacious.
What makes the question NOT a fallacy is PRECISELY THE TRUTH (at least to us Chrisians and based purely on faith) that there is heaven
Futhermore, how can you say that “the OP is fallacious because it is not true” when the OP is not making a statement but rather asking a question.
The question was “If there is no heaven, will you still love God?”
Statements can either be true or false but questions are neither true nor false.
If it is not a “WHAT IF” then it would indeed be fallacious for it would go like this: ” There is no heaven. Do you still love God?”. THAT is a fallacy because the first statement is a fallacy in so far as it begs the question by positing something (non existence or unreality of heaven) as fact, when this tenet in itself have to be established.