Without fanfare, Obama advances transgender rights





I don’t think there’s anything wrong with trying to protect the civil rights of transgender people. They should be treated with fairness and afforded dignity, just like everyone else.


Totally agree with Isca. I don’t think we should be sad or angry about this; transgender people deserve the same rights and respect as everyone else.






You have no sadness for the mutilation of the human body?


I have more sadness that some Catholics like you would be unhappy with the protection of the rights of transgender people and apparently think your “sadness for the mutilation of the human body” actually matters, especially enough to trump the rights of a transgender person.


Catechism of the Catholic Church

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.






WOW…JUST WOW. UNBELIEVABLE! Do the ‘rights’ include Catholic Churches and Organizations being forced to hire transgendered (and gay people for that matter) to ‘teach’ their children? Or Catholic Clergy to ‘Marry’ them in Church? You think with ‘rights’ that’s not coming? Or…do you think ‘rights’ trump religious freedom? People are not thinking these things through. Or…maybe they think the Church should ‘change’ their doctrine to fit the ‘rights’ of gays and transgendered people.:rolleyes:


Is there some specific right that everyone else shares that they do not already have as citizens of this country?


Unfortunately this type of thing just seems to endorse transgenderism. Transgendered people need therapy and such to help them become comfortable with the sex that God created them as. They do not need endorsement of their disordered thinking.


Right. Make sure their lives are as difficult as possible to discourage them.


There are issues that transsexuals face that make life more difficult. Issues such as health care, legal identities, and high levels of discrimination. The changes that have been made by the administration over the last 6 years have gone to reducing some of those difficulties.


What has the Church said in regard to transgendered indivduals specifically? It is not the same thing as homosexulaity. I believe it is a medical condition which can be alleviated with surgery. Mutilating the human body is allowed for medical issues.


Are you anti-circumcision?
Just curious……



527 Jesus’ circumcision, on the eighth day after his birth, is the sign of his incorporation into Abraham’s descendants, into the people of the covenant. It is the sign of his submission to the Law and his deputation to Israel’s worship, in which he will participate throughout his life. This sign prefigures that “circumcision of Christ” which is Baptism.

Galatians 5:6 “In Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision: but faith that worketh by charity”

Philippians 3:3 “For we are the circumcision, who in spirit serve God; and glory in Christ Jesus, not having confidence in the flesh.”



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