[quote=spau0035]I have heard Rev. 12 used often as a defence of Mary being our spiritual mother. However, when I look at some of the writing of the Church Fathers, mainly Hippolytus, Victorinus, and Methodius, they understand the woman in Rev. 12 as being the church. Could someone respond to this? Also I would like to know if there are any Church Fathers that I can read to see the Catholic view of Mary, mainly her immaculate conception and assumption. Thanks.
I’ve studied that passage a lot and I see that not only they but the commentator in the Douay-Rheims Challoner Bible took this position, I guess in light of verse 17 (And the dragon was angry against the woman: and went to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.)
1 “A woman”… The church of God. It may also, by allusion, be applied to our blessed Lady. The church is clothed with the sun, that is, with Christ: she hath the moon, that is, the changeable things of the world, under her feet: and the twelve stars with which she is crowned, are the twelve apostles: she is in labour and pain, whilst she brings forth her children, and Christ in them, in the midst of afflictions and persecutions.
Though, as with many passages of the Word of God, it could have this meaning from the context, I generally believe that the whole context of the passage points to The Church as the children of the Blessed Virgin.
Some see this woman as Israel, but that doesn’t seem to fit to me because of verse 17. (…to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. )
This passage tied in with the foretype (is that a word?) of the Queen Mothers (Hebrew= “Giberah”) of the Davidic kings from Solomon on, seems to clarify (in my mind anyway) the case for the queenship of the Blessed Virgin and her position as intercessor for Christians (John 2:1-11)
The links that have been given above should help with your other questions, but I hope this will help as well.