Women and pants


#22

Scandalous, isn’t it? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:


#23

I say this with all kindness, but you don’t know that Padre Pio said that. What you’ve read on the internet is that he supposedly advised a women in the confessional to quit selling pants in her store. We have no proof whatsoever that this actually happened and I personally wonder why anyone would go about telling others what was told to her in the confessional. We must remember that if this actually did occur, that advice was for her and not the rest of us. Perhaps those pants were akin to leggings. Perhaps there were shady dealings going on with the manufacturing of those items. Perhaps she was charging too much. Perhaps she wanted to announce to the world that Padre Pio heard her confession. And perhaps none of this ever happened to begin with…

Bottom line (no pun intended)- if Holy Mother Church thought that it was a concern of our very salvation, the Magesterium would surely let us know. In the mean time, I would suggest staying off of websites and away from books that present an opinion or hearsay as fact.


#24

Thank you so much for sharing your experience


#25

How appropriate the name of “slacks” because if a woman is wearing those, her morals have to be slack.

:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Though overall, Roma Locuta Est.

Also, I remember a while back someone mentioning a recent female saint that wore pants. Amyome know who it was?


#26

St Gianna Molla.

We have many new venerables and “servants of God” that have also worn pants.


#27

I wish I could’ve given you more likes for this post. I have some mild ocd issues and could easily fall into some scrupulous worrying. Reading these threads is helping me guard against that. I think what also has helped is concentrating on Divine Mercy. Fr. Gaitley’s 33 Days to Merciful Love is a tremendous resource for that.


#28

@Marshmallow1

http://www.papalaudience.org/dress-code

Women:
Women can wear trousers, capri pants and skirts and dresses are permitted however they cannot be shorter than knee length and shoulders must be covered.
In very hot weather a shawl or large scarf/Pashmina can be draped around the shoulders for visiting the sites.
Bare shoulders and short skirts are not permitted and again come prepared to cover up if wearing shorts.

Accepted

Mens

  • Long pants
  • At least short sleeves

Women

  • The knees covered
  • At least short sleeves

Rejected

  • Shorts
  • T-shirts without sleeves
  • Short skirts
  • Baseball caps inside the churches

#29

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a9.htm

2521 Purity requires modesty , an integral part of temperance. Modesty protects the intimate center of the person. It means refusing to unveil what should remain hidden. It is ordered to chastity to whose sensitivity it bears witness. It guides how one looks at others and behaves toward them in conformity with the dignity of persons and their solidarity.

**[2522] Modesty protects the mystery of persons and their love. It encourages patience and moderation in loving relationships; it requires that the conditions for the definitive giving and commitment of man and woman to one another be fulfilled. Modesty is decency. It inspires one’s choice of clothing. It keeps silence or reserve where there is evident risk of unhealthy curiosity. It is discreet.

**[2523] There is a modesty of the feelings as well as of the body. It protests, for example, against the voyeuristic explorations of the human body in certain advertisements, or against the solicitations of certain media that go too far in the exhibition of intimate things. Modesty inspires a way of life which makes it possible to resist the allurements of fashion and the pressures of prevailing ideologies.

2524 The forms taken by modesty vary from one culture to another. Everywhere, however, modesty exists as an intuition of the spiritual dignity proper to man. It is born with the awakening consciousness of being a subject. Teaching modesty to children and adolescents means awakening in them respect for the human person.

**[2525 Christian purity requires a purification of the social climate . It requires of the communications media that their presentations show concern for respect and restraint. Purity of heart brings freedom from widespread eroticism and avoids entertainment inclined to voyeurism and illusion.

**[2526] So called moral permissiveness rests on an erroneous conception of human freedom; the necessary precondition for the development of true freedom is to let oneself be educated in the moral law. Those in charge of education can reasonably be expected to give young people instruction respectful of the truth, the qualities of the heart, and the moral and spiritual dignity of man.

**[2527] "The Good News of Christ continually renews the life and culture of fallen man; it combats and removes the error and evil which flow from the ever-present attraction of sin. It never ceases to purify and elevate the morality of peoples. It takes the spiritual qualities and endowments of every age and nation, and with supernatural riches it causes them to blossom, as it were, from within; it fortifies, completes, and restores them in Christ."316


#30

Priests and popes have had opinions at various times in various places. These are opinions and are not doctrine.


#31

Comehome4John6, you are very kind to say that. Thank you.

And, yes! That is a WONDERFUL book. His other books as well. Especially when he tells of St. Terese and her “little way” ! She is a PERFECT suggestion to help us understand God’s mercy. Thank you for reminding me. I hope Marshmallow1 will consider this author. Also, if your parish has the FORMED resource, his videos are on there under the Hearts Afire section.


#32

I thought it was her. But all the Google images had her in a skirt.


#33


#34

That’s my wife.


#36

The concept of ‘two-trunked’ legwear was a thing.

As part of Temple rituals, the High Priest had to ascend a high flight of stairs and had a pair of boxer-type undergarments that he would wear, tailored around each leg


#37

Thankfully, the low-rise jeans are going back out of style. I could never be comfortable in them.


#39

Thank you for posting this.


#40

I would tug on them because it felt like they were falling down, and I never could tell for sure what part of me was showing, so I never wore them. I think I tried wearing them in the 70’s, and in more recent years I wore the mid-rise jeans but was always tugging on them, too.


#41

I don’t have any ripped jeans but I think they’re cute, as long as the tears are in modest places.


#43

Yeah. The only pictures I’ve seen of her in pants are when she seems to be in the snow and enjoying sledding or skiing. It seems it was customary, though, that in her “time and place” women wore skirts and dresses for every day wear. I’m sure as we get more modern day saints, we will see more female saints who wear pants unless they are from religious orders.


#44

Let us not forget the most famous female saint who wore trousers and got a lot of criticism for it, St Joan of Arc.


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