Worshipping mary and giving mary to john

My dad who is southern Baptist made this remark to an article talking about how Catholics do not worship Mary. Does anyone know what movement he’s talking about? And how do we defend that Jesus gave Mary to all of us?

“there have been movements within the Catholic church to have Mary declared a ‘co-savior’ with Jesus. Therefore there are a lot of Catholics that do ‘worship’ Mary. Jesus entrusted his Mother to his disciple because there were no siblings of Jesus there and he would have wanted her to know someone would take care of her. The New Testament refers to the siblings of Jesus many times.”

He might mean the name of co-redemtrix that some ascribe to Mary. All it means is that she brought Jesus to us with her “Yes” to God’s will at the Annunciation. Just as someone brought Jesus to your father, and probably how he brought Jesus to you. Someone has to bring the news of the Gospel to us all, and additionally, Mary brought the Gospel to us ALL.

If there are some who actually worship Mary, then they are explicitly defying the clear, and unambigious teaching of the Church. Worship and adoration is given to God alone. We only honor Mary and the saints, never worship.

Some may get confused because we honor Mary as the Ark of the New Covenant. Perhaps you could ask your father if the Israelites worshipped the Ark of the Old Covenant in the Temple? (answer, of course they didn’t, but they most certainly did honor it)

As to Mary and other children, I would let your father know that this is simply not true. The Bible speaks about brothers and sisters, but these refer to cousins or other relatives. None are the children of Mary.

catholic.com/blog/matt-fradd/jesus-had-brothers

As Catholic, we do not worship Mary. We honor & venerate her for her fiat of saying yes & agreeing to be the vessel of the incarnation of Christ. We also do not worship Saints. We honor & venerate them as intercessors of our prayers. We worship only God.

There is a movement to petition the Holy Father to declare the 5th Marian dogma…of Mary as co-redemtrix…meaning with Christ. Not savior with Jesus.

The terms are misunderstood by those who are not Catholics.

ewtn.com/library/MARY/MEDIATRI.htm

*Up to the present time in the history of the church, four Marian doctrines have been defined as central Catholic truths by the Church: the Motherhood of God, the Immaculate Conception, the Perpetual Virginity of Mary, and her Glorious Assumption into heaven. It is now time for the church, at the summit of this Marian era, to proclaim and define the fifth and final Marian doctrine, that is, Mary’s universal mediation as Coredemptrix, Mediatrix of all grace, and advocate for the people of God.

When the Church invokes Mary under the title, “Coredemptrix”, she means that Mary uniquely participated in the redemption of the human family by Jesus Christ, Our Lord and Saviour. At the Annunciation (cf.Lk.1:38) Mary freely cooperated in giving the Second Person of the Trinity his human body which is the very instrument of redemption, as Scripture tells us: “We have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all” (Heb.10:10).

And at the foot of the cross of our Saviour (Jn.19:26), Mary’s intense sufferings, united with those of her Son, as Pope John Paul II tells us, were, “also a contribution to the Redemption of us all” (Salvifici Doloris, n.25). Because of this intimate sharing in the redemption accomplished by the Lord, the Mother of the Redeemer is uniquely and rightly referred to by Pope John Paul II and the Church as the “Coredemptrix.”

It is important to note that the prefix “co” in the title Coredemptrix does not mean “equal to” but rather “with”, coming from the Latin word cum. The Marian title Coredemptrix never places Mary on a level of equality with her Divine Son, Jesus Christ. Rather it refers to Mary’s unique human participation which is completely secondary and subordinate to the redeeming role of Jesus, who alone is true God and true Man.*

voxpopuli.org/response_to_7_common_objections_part1.php

John 19:27 After that, he saith to the disciple: Behold thy mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own.

You would do well to look up the definition of the word ‘worship’. To say that catholics worship mary is to use the word correctly. To say that we ‘only worship God’ or that ‘worship is given to God alone’ is to use the word incorrectly. Adoration, devotion, honor and veneration are all worship. Adoration is given to God. Veneration and devotion is given to the Blessed Virgin Mary. Honor and devotion is given to the saints. All are worship.

Why must we put ourselves out as a target? Anytime something such as this can be taken the wrong way or needs tons and tons of explanation to clarify, well, don’t use it!!
Co- implies equality as in a co-chair or co-founder. If you were to see a famous composer walking down the street with his mother, you would not see her as the co-composer!!!

Words change their meanings over the years and worship is definitely one of them. The English still call their judges “your worship” meaning honor. But why, when the venacular meaning has changed, do you insist on using a meaning that can only inflame?

Perhaps, you didn’t read the link in post 5.

Look up ‘worship’ in a dictionary and you will see that the meaning has not changed. When someone uses a word that they do not know the full meaning of, do we leave them in ignorance?

1 John 3:17: But if any one has the world’s goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God’s love abide in him?

How does compromising the truth save souls?

I did read the link. The objections that were offered are precisely what I was referring to in my previous post. This title is too vague in understanding and it’s usage to be of any benefit to anyone save those who wish to attack the Church.

Now on the use of the word “worship” . Here is a perfect example of current usage and understanding being different than what is printed in a dictionary. I don’t worship anyone except the Trinity. Honor, yes, devotion, yes to the saints but not worship. That , in the colloquialism of today is reserved for God, no matter what Mr. Webster seems to think.

Yes, that seems to be the prevalent opinion. Just as, once the world was thought to be flat. Despite the evidence of nature.

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