[quote=chevalier]News #1: In the ancient Israel, baths were public and coed. So were those in the Roman empire except maybe during the death of the republic and the beginning of the principate.
News #2: It’s women who wear things, but it’s guys who see and it’s their choice what to imagine in their minds. It’s an awful shift of the burden to make women responsible for men fantasising about them.
News #3: Men’s parts (including the chest) work on women exactly the same way women’s parts work on men. And yet it’s supposed to be women’s responsibility and guys are not believed immodest for walking around in boxers or briefs on the beach. Women have more of a reason to stare at a men’s briefs than men at womens’ panties.
If you think swimsuit is immodest for a girl, go to the beach in pajamas. Or should you be allowed to go there in boxers or briefs and she left on her own to control herself and dressed in an all-covering robe so that you wouldn’t have to put any effort in keeping your thoughts pure?
It is for guys’ sinful minds and refusal to try to control themselves that girls can’t have as much comfort on the beach as is accorded to guys and it’s a good idea to remember this.
hmm im sorry you feel that way. its exactly that kind of thinking that got us the fashions of britney spears. it’s 50/50. men should control their eyes, most definitely. they should never look at a women with lust, as Jesus never did. however, women should also do their part to help keep men from looking. and yes, whoever asked, men’s speedo’s are immodest. i know this is a very touchy subject and people dont like to hear the truth, but modern swimwear, even one-pieces, is immodest.
Here are some quotes from Our Church on modesty:
"To say that '…modesty is a matter of custom’ is just as wrong as to say that, ‘…honesty is a matter of custom.’
“Let parents keep their daughters away from public gymnastic games and contests; but if their daughters are compelled to attend such exhibitions, let them see that they are fully and modestly dressed. Let them never permit their daughters to don immodest garb.”
-Donato Cardinal Sbaretti, Prefect
Congregation of the Council
[font=Arial] Rome, January 12, 1930
Imprimatur dated Sept. 24, 1956
[left]“A dress cannot be called decent which is cut deeper than two fingers breadth under the pit of the throat; which does not cover the arms at least to the elbows; and scarcely reaches a bit beyond the knees. Furthermore, dresses of transparent materials are improper.”
[font=Arial]-The Cardinal Vicar of Pius XII[/font]
[font=Arial]hope those quotes clear up any confusion