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I was under the impression that the Catechism of the Catholic Church and a host of magisterial documents covering a huge span of topics were the common property of all of the people of the Church.
? I didn't see anyone saying they weren't.
Further, I thought that it was the right, the duty and the responsibility of the lay,religious and priestly members of the Church.
The right, duty and responsibility to do what?
If conformity with the Catechism and the Magisterium and the Pope doesn't define "authentically Catholic" what does?
That's a good question. But Dr. Mirus' view does not completely conform with the Magisterium and the Pope. As I was pointing out, the Ordinary gets to say what is Catholic. That is what the Pope and the Magisterium say: the determination of what is Catholic is done by competent ecclesiastical authority.
By the very fact of stating what is Catholic and what is not ('authentically' is an irrelevant word, really), he has stepped outside his authority, an authority determined by the Pope who promulgated Canon Law, and the Magisterium of the Church.
Going back to the example: if an Ordinary, who is the competent ecclesiastical authority of his jurisdiction says "X is Catholic", and Dr. Mirus says "X is not Catholic" there seems to be a problem, doesn't there? The Church gives the authority to the Ordinary, not Dr. Mirus.
To compare the actions of individuals and organizations should be a matter of careful reasoning and common sense. Seems to me that this is what Karl Keating, Mother Angelica and Jeff Mirus have all three done in establishing and operating Catholic Answers, EWTN and Catholic Culture.
I thought we were talking about "Catholic Culture" not every apologetics organization under the sun. Let's stick with CatholicCulture which is not EWTN or CA.
As far as I could find out online none of the three have advanced degrees in theology.
That's not true. Colin Donovan of EWTN has an STL, they also have many others with advanced theology degrees on staff. Again, let's stick with CatholicCulture.
On the other hand, all three seem to be solidly in line with the Catechism and the Magisterium. Certainly all three have earned my trust!
They seem to be in your opinion. Yet there are many bishops that behave and run their dioceses in a somewhat opposite manner of above. They are in good standing with the Pope and with their fellow bishops.
Let's look at this obejectively. Where does the Magisterium say "centering prayer" is against Catholic teaching and not authentically Catholic? It doesn't. It says aspects of Eastern practices should not be melded into Catholicism. It never mentions centering prayer specifically. So, maybe some bishops think centering prayer is OK if monitored. Has Dr. Mirus ever visited that center? Does he know exactly how they practice centering prayer? If he did, he doesn't say so.
The CDF, Cardinal Ratzinger, did not see fit to condemn "Centering prayer" by name as unCatholic. AFAIK, no proponents of it have been disciplined by the Church. So, according to the Magisterium, one is not unCatholic by the mere fact that they do "centering prayer" - they would have to do something more specific.
Yet, here Dr. Mirus condemns the site as not authentically Catholic for Centering Prayer.
I agree with Dr. Mirus that centering prayer is nonsense and dangerous, and probably for the same reasons he does. What I disagree with is that he takes it upon himself, with no advanced training, apparently in violation of Canon Law, to comment on the fidelity of other Catholics.
If I were to say to you, "You're a bad Catholic because of your post in this thread" you would be indignant, and rightfully so. It's not my place to say that. But if your pastor or bishop said that, it would mean something and you would think about it, wouldn't you?
Dr. Mirus is in effect going around calling people "bad Catholics" and "good Catholics" based on websites. He is questioning the fidelity of the website, and by extension, the fidelity of the people associated with the websites.
It is much, much different to do something like this, which is also on CatholicCulture:
It describes the author's opinion that centering prayer is often if not always in violation of the CDF's guidelines. Look at his conclusion:
In any case, I've tried to isolate some of their more questionable emphases and to show, in light of the Vatican's recent document, why these are potentially dangerous for Christians. Whether they intend it or not, it's just too easy to come away from the writings of Father Pennington and Abbot Keating with a false view of the Christian life in general and of Christian prayer in particular.
That is a fair conclusion. It is not "these are unfaithful Catholics, not authentic Catholics because they engage in centering prayer"
It's fine to trust his opinion, if you want, but he should stop judging the fidelity of other Catholics in the manner he is doing when he has no authority to do so. When he does that, he is, IMO, in error and engaging in a disasterous practice.