You've Heard People Compare Trump to Hitler. So We Asked a Woman Who Was Born in Nazi Germany


#21

Fair enough. :frowning:


#22

True, college professors tend to prefer Mao or Trotsky, but never both.


#23

Trotsky is pretty neat.


#24

Neither Trump or Obama are fascist or comparable to Hitler. I think the only comparison that could be made is that Trump is the leader of a right wing populist movement that has gained traction because of the crisis of capitalism, but he is not a fascist and his government is not fascist.


#25

I would take Trotsky over Mao any day. But actually I prefer William James and Edward Chace Tolman.


#26

Crises provoke fear, alarm. In my opinion, the most obvious example of European populism is Germany in 1933. After [Paul von] Hindenburg, after the crisis of 1930, Germany is broken, it needs to get up, to find its identity, a leader, someone capable of restoring its character, and there is a young man named Adolf Hitler who says: “I can, I can”. And all Germans vote for Hitler. Hitler didn’t steal the power, his people voted for him, and then he destroyed his people.

That is the risk. In times of crisis, we lack judgment, and that is a constant reference for me. Let’s look for a savior who gives us back our identity and lets defend ourselves with walls, barbed-wire, whatever, from other peoples that may rob us of our identity. And that is a very serious thing. That is why I always try to say: talk among yourselves, talk to one another. But the case of Germany in 1933 is typical, a people that was immersed in a crisis, that looked for its identity until this charismatic leader came and promised to give their identity back, and he gave them a distorted identity, and we all know what happened.

Then he went after the intellectuals. Dictators always will eliminate the intelligentsia of a nation. Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and every other despot attacked the intellectuals of society. Then they attacked the press. Putin has all but eliminated his opposition through assassination of opposition leaders and journalists and by laws eliminating free press while promoting their own state run propaganda media outlets. The people then consume one duplicitous viewpoint under the banner of protecting and supporting the motherland. When in fact it’s purpose is design to serve and support one dictator. When you have Bannon state that our opposition party is the news media,one wonders the hidden agenda


#27

Just sticking my two cents in, but reading thru the posts today, I’ve noticed a trend to silence people by questioning the source or something like this which appears to question your objectivity.

Which is what is happening at the Trump protests across the country. Not a debate of ideas but an attempt to silence opposing ideas.

Perhaps a coincidence, I apologize, if I’m reading more than what was meant. :shrug:


#28

A very important commonality in all those socialist dictators was to use the state to destroy and/or take over traditional religion.

It was the convincing enough people that their ideas were more modern and progressive which gave each the base to roll out their different ideas of socialism - the new religion for the people - which has always been a humanitarian disaster.


#29

Fascism isn’t socialist. It is a movement that seeks to preserve the rule of capital, and as such can’t be socialist. If an economic system has capital, it is capitalism.


#30

THIS is why people make the comparison. It’s not so much trump himself that is reminiscent of the Nazi era, but rather how his partisan rhetoric gained support from the masses.


#31

There isn’t any comparison but disparaging.

He may be rhetorical but he actually does it, which we cannot say for the smooth politicians before him. And the leftists cannot stand it because he actually does what he says.


#32

People make the comparison because they’re historically ignorant.


#33

I think she is right. I’m glad Trump & Pence won.

Thank you for sharing.

God Bless You

Josh


#34

I disagree, sometimes it can be, but it can also be an important argument, as there are things to learn regarding the rise of Hitler and the tactics they used. But it has to be backed up with a rationale.

God Bless You

Thank you for reading
Josh


#35

I agree. One does not have to be slaughtering innocents to ‘deserve’ that comparison. The comparison can be between the personality or something else, imo.

In general, we tend to only notice things when it gets really, really terrible and we ignore the little warning signs.

I don’t think Trump is filled with evil but with ignorance instead. whatever he says sometimes just sounds so ‘dictator-like’ that sometimes I can’t help comparing him to one.

Plus just to add: there is also someone who lived in Nazi Germany who compared Trump to Hitler that the left used. There are always different opinions, so don’t take them as gospel just because they lived in that era. They are still people who have their opinions.


#36

Better, perhaps, to listen to the woman in the OP. Some of these “protester” groups would be Brownshirts if they could only get more members.


#37

Hillary’s rhetoric didn’t gain support of the masses? They sure love to throw around she won this popular vote and also, aren’t the Hillary supporters the ones you are describing?


#38

Yes, but comparisons to notorious figures are poor form and best ignored if one is simply referencing a style or mannerism. Hitler is known for the Holocaust. Any comparisons need to lay there.

The power of the executive branch expanded under Bush Jr, and even more so under Obama. Why not comparisons to a dictatorial style there? There was far more dictatorial maneuverings in the last eight years than we have thus far with Trump. Yet you don’t compare Obama to Hitler?

Trump’s been President for three weeks. What dictatorial edicts has he enacted to grab ultimate power and crush individual freedoms?

It’s like me comparing my old AP Physics teacher to Judas Iscariot because they had similar beards.


#39

This article struck me as the pot calling the kettle black. I would call it a worthless article.


#40

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